What do I need to know 'bout going to OZ?
01-25-2008, 04:16 PM
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What do I need to know 'bout going to OZ?
After I finish college, I'd like to go to New Zeland and fly. Was there a few years back and fell in love with the place. What do I need to know about immigrating, license conversion, getting hired, etc...?
I'm finishing my comm/instrument in a month or so. I don't know too much about flying commercialy, other than the types of flying, despite having a father and a grandfather who are commercial pilots. I'd like to get into heavy international freight, or airlines. My CFII just got an invite to training to fly Baron's single pilot in the middle of the night, which would be my ideal job after being a CFI.
I tried to send Korupilot a PM but didn't hear anything back, and I've read the posts about the Australian Pilot "shortage". Any help would be appreciated.
I'm finishing my comm/instrument in a month or so. I don't know too much about flying commercialy, other than the types of flying, despite having a father and a grandfather who are commercial pilots. I'd like to get into heavy international freight, or airlines. My CFII just got an invite to training to fly Baron's single pilot in the middle of the night, which would be my ideal job after being a CFI.
I tried to send Korupilot a PM but didn't hear anything back, and I've read the posts about the Australian Pilot "shortage". Any help would be appreciated.
01-25-2008, 06:53 PM
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jsfboat,
Give Koru some time, he may be out on a trip. Do you want to fly in Oz or New Zealand?
For NZ...
You can get started by checking out out this link...
http://www.caa.govt.nz/pilots/Flight...ition_Info.pdf
It is for getting your FAA stuff recognized in New Zealand. You will also need a work visa or residency depending on what you want to do, i.e if you want to eventually fly for Air New Zealand you will need to establish permanent residency. Having been through the process I can tell you that it is not a quick, cheap or easy process. You can start here...
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/
Hope this can get you going.
Cheers,
JD
Give Koru some time, he may be out on a trip. Do you want to fly in Oz or New Zealand?
For NZ...
You can get started by checking out out this link...
http://www.caa.govt.nz/pilots/Flight...ition_Info.pdf
It is for getting your FAA stuff recognized in New Zealand. You will also need a work visa or residency depending on what you want to do, i.e if you want to eventually fly for Air New Zealand you will need to establish permanent residency. Having been through the process I can tell you that it is not a quick, cheap or easy process. You can start here...
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/
Hope this can get you going.
Cheers,
JD
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01-26-2008, 10:51 AM
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Oops, I was thinking about something different when i wrote the post, that's why I wrote OZ instead of New Zealand. I also misspelled Zealand. I just got out of a Physics and had formulas running through my head.
Tweet, how long before I want to move down there should i get the paperwork going? Just from your personal experience. Thanks for the help.
Tweet, how long before I want to move down there should i get the paperwork going? Just from your personal experience. Thanks for the help.
01-26-2008, 11:32 AM
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I was told to expect a year for my permanent residency visa to be approved...because I had my sh%t together, it only took about 4 months...I did delay getting my passport stamped after my approval for the maximum of 6 months, just so that my 12 month window to enter the country would be started later. In effect my window is 18 months from my initial approval. Also plan on setting aside about $1300.00 for the fees.
I'm not sure how long a work visa would take. I would think not as long and not quite as expensive. You can dig the answers out of immigration link above.
Also Druglord and Flying Kiwi bring up good points...DO NOT confuse the Kiwis with the Aussies...very poor form. I've found it is a surefire way to **** off my wife. LOL
FlyingKiwi..what do you fly?
Cheers,
JD
I'm not sure how long a work visa would take. I would think not as long and not quite as expensive. You can dig the answers out of immigration link above.
Also Druglord and Flying Kiwi bring up good points...DO NOT confuse the Kiwis with the Aussies...very poor form. I've found it is a surefire way to **** off my wife. LOL
FlyingKiwi..what do you fly?
Cheers,
JD
01-26-2008, 12:57 PM
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Tweet, how's it going mate?? Presently just flying right seat in the CRJ200 and going to upgrade class in April.
Been reading your posts (and Koru's) for a while now, and thought it was about time I chimed in. I'm from NZ but my wife is from the USA. Have done all my flying in the states, and like a lot of people on here, wish to return home one day and fly for AIRNZ.
Do you know of any good places to get your licenses converted from FAA to CAA???? That's assuming I come to NZ with an FAA ATP. You've probably already mentioned it in one of your posts, I'll have to have another flick through them. Anyway, hope all is going well for you down there.
"Hey jsfboat"............ no hard feelings about confusing NZ with Australia....
I've been called many worse things than an "aussie"
Good luck with your endeavour........
Been reading your posts (and Koru's) for a while now, and thought it was about time I chimed in. I'm from NZ but my wife is from the USA. Have done all my flying in the states, and like a lot of people on here, wish to return home one day and fly for AIRNZ.
Do you know of any good places to get your licenses converted from FAA to CAA???? That's assuming I come to NZ with an FAA ATP. You've probably already mentioned it in one of your posts, I'll have to have another flick through them. Anyway, hope all is going well for you down there.
"Hey jsfboat"............ no hard feelings about confusing NZ with Australia....
I've been called many worse things than an "aussie"
Good luck with your endeavour........
01-26-2008, 01:14 PM
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Right back at ya Kiwi...
Good thing you are from NZ, at least you won't have to go through the immigration process. One of the biggest hurdles for any non Kiwi getting on with Air NZ.
As far as the FAA to CAA conversion. I'm not going to be much help there. I think because of your current job flying RJ's (100hrs SIC or 500hours PIC in air transport ops) you should be able to convert straight over to the ATPL with a couple of tests and your sim check at Air NZ. The tests are comprised of Air Law and one or two other ones that escape me at the moment. I am in a bind because my military time does not qualify for that clause. I need to go the Commercial route complete with all tests and a checkride. Can't figure that one out...flying a C-130 world wide delivering troops and cargo to combat zones doesn't count for Air Transport Ops. Now I just need to find the time and money to pull that off. I am commited here at work until I retire this summer. Will just have to wait and see.
BTW where are you based out of?
Cheers,
JD
Good thing you are from NZ, at least you won't have to go through the immigration process. One of the biggest hurdles for any non Kiwi getting on with Air NZ.
As far as the FAA to CAA conversion. I'm not going to be much help there. I think because of your current job flying RJ's (100hrs SIC or 500hours PIC in air transport ops) you should be able to convert straight over to the ATPL with a couple of tests and your sim check at Air NZ. The tests are comprised of Air Law and one or two other ones that escape me at the moment. I am in a bind because my military time does not qualify for that clause. I need to go the Commercial route complete with all tests and a checkride. Can't figure that one out...flying a C-130 world wide delivering troops and cargo to combat zones doesn't count for Air Transport Ops. Now I just need to find the time and money to pull that off. I am commited here at work until I retire this summer. Will just have to wait and see.
BTW where are you based out of?
Cheers,
JD
01-26-2008, 03:16 PM
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Hi,
Sorry about that JSF, I just sent you a PM and then saw this thread. I'll PM you.
I have been a bit on the busy side and have spent most of my time on this site railing about 777's that land short of runway's.
FlyingKiwi, I flew with a guy two weeks ago to CYVR, another dozer on the 777 and he did just what you are doing, except his mother was the Yank. He flew the RJ's for independance and it's predecessor until they went belly up, both in the right and left seat. The company is very serious about bringing Kiwis with experience back to the home land so you'd have no problems getting in I think. I shall find and post the latest company material relevant ti hiring that was sent to me by the man in charge of the selection program as it will shed some light on what Air NZ is looking at lately.
Sorry about that JSF, I just sent you a PM and then saw this thread. I'll PM you.
I have been a bit on the busy side and have spent most of my time on this site railing about 777's that land short of runway's.
FlyingKiwi, I flew with a guy two weeks ago to CYVR, another dozer on the 777 and he did just what you are doing, except his mother was the Yank. He flew the RJ's for independance and it's predecessor until they went belly up, both in the right and left seat. The company is very serious about bringing Kiwis with experience back to the home land so you'd have no problems getting in I think. I shall find and post the latest company material relevant ti hiring that was sent to me by the man in charge of the selection program as it will shed some light on what Air NZ is looking at lately.
01-26-2008, 03:27 PM
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JD,
Kudos to you and your fellow military buddies. Got a lot of praise for you blokes (and ladies) for doing what you do.
I can only imagine the immigration process. If it's anything like getting permanent residency in the states, I feel for all you buggers........
Mate I hope you're right about the conversion from ATP - ATPL. I assumed I was going to have to do the whole commercial route also. Maybe Koru will read this and be able to offer up his infinite wisdom about aviation.
I feel for you having to do your basic ratings over again in NZ. I can't figure the whole Air Transport Ops thing out either. Like you say, you'd think flying a C-130 worldwide would count for something. I hope you're able to find the time and money to pursue your dream of flying down under, if that's what is important to you. I mean, I'm dumber than a box of bricks but I won't be letting that stand in the way of me getting on at AIRNZ (hopefully).........
I'm currently based in Memphis and will no doubt be here until I've built some decent time in the left seat. I take it you're still in the states until summer, is that right?? Will you head south once you retire???
Cheers mate,
Kiwi
Kudos to you and your fellow military buddies. Got a lot of praise for you blokes (and ladies) for doing what you do.
I can only imagine the immigration process. If it's anything like getting permanent residency in the states, I feel for all you buggers........
Mate I hope you're right about the conversion from ATP - ATPL. I assumed I was going to have to do the whole commercial route also. Maybe Koru will read this and be able to offer up his infinite wisdom about aviation.
I feel for you having to do your basic ratings over again in NZ. I can't figure the whole Air Transport Ops thing out either. Like you say, you'd think flying a C-130 worldwide would count for something. I hope you're able to find the time and money to pursue your dream of flying down under, if that's what is important to you. I mean, I'm dumber than a box of bricks but I won't be letting that stand in the way of me getting on at AIRNZ (hopefully).........
I'm currently based in Memphis and will no doubt be here until I've built some decent time in the left seat. I take it you're still in the states until summer, is that right?? Will you head south once you retire???
Cheers mate,
Kiwi
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