dn_wisconsin

The bus tells on you all by itself. It sends messages to Airbus in France and to your company automatically about every factor of your flight. So my guess is sometime over the ocean it sent a message about what the plane was going through and I mean EVERYTHING is sent back to Airbus and the company. At Spirit we have someone in SOC that watches the messages and pays real close attention to when something red pops up.

forgot to bid

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chuckyt1

There have been a number of accidents that have occurred while "whoop whoop pull up" was sounding. Two that I can come up with, off the top of my head, that were CFIT.

Pharo351

What were you late for your commute or something? You mean no other options, other than leveling off, adding power therby restoreing pressurization and diverting to your alternate? I don't know your full circumstances, just busting your chops brother!

xtreme_jetlag

Throughout my years of flying Airbus, I have developed a few relationships at Airbus Industries and decided to inquire about AFR 447. I was told this information earlier today.

"The on-board maintenance system initially sent a message about an electrical circuit malfunction followed by data indicating a pressurization problem. The next message was a final message. A final message is described as an all out system and aircraft status message that is sent before the airplane loses electrical power and goes to Batteries Only".

I have flown in and out of Brazil during the summer, and I can tell you that if they encountered weather, it is nothing what you see in the US. Thunderstorms in and around Brazil have tops that reach FL 510 and they are nasty. If they did indeed ditch NE of the Archipilegos, and the aircraft sank, there are depths there that range between 9866 ft and 14000 ft. That will make the recovery of the flight data difficult.

My prayers are with AFR 447.

JoeyMeatballs

I don't understand, I avoid yellow as much as we can, and red is a nono, do you guys in these heavier airplanes usually plow through cells showing moderate to extremer precip?, what would be the reason for trying to make it through a thunderstorm (if this in fact what happened). 12 minutes of Severe turbulence must have been an absolute nightmare

Dougdrvr

You probably could have saved yourself a lot of trouble by just pushing the throttles up.

JoeyMeatballs

haha, the outflow valve pretty much gave up when we reduced power so max power may have kept it working properly but then we wouldn't have been able to descend , but yea keeping max power may have fixed the problem

Also it was a minute or two after we pulled the power back that it happened, and when I saw the cabin altitude climb and turn amber, getting my mask on and dropping to 10,000 ft was my only concern, but I know for the future, ya live and ya learn

Dougdrvr

It's an old 707 trick, some were so "leaky" that you had to descend with 1,2,4 at idle and 3 about half power. (but it never hurts to put your mask on while trying it. It comes off as easy as it went on)

SpyGlass

I've read the beacons are certified to operate at up to 20,000 feet of water, and transmit up to 30-days at that depth. The Atlantic has depths can reach more than 25,000 feet though. Although this is the case, a signal could be affected though by obstructions such as dirt, silt, or airplane wreckage.

I feel for everyone affected by this...