CRM - Air India style
10-04-2009, 10:11 AM
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10-04-2009, 11:48 AM
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I thought that maybe India had just incorporated the age 65 retirement rule? 
On a more serious note; often we poke fun at our "old" and "grumpy" looking FAs we have here in the US. Stories like this make me feel good about our crews though; we have our share of problems and disagreements but overall we are light years ahead of some other nations when it comes to fairness and equal treatment of women.
Stunned Passengers Watch Pilots Slug It Out
2:40pm UK, Sunday October 04, 2009
Two pilots have been grounded after they allegedly left their cockpit mid-flight to trade punches with crew members in front of stunned passengers.
Bash landing: The pilots have been suspended while a probe is carried out
Severe turbulence broke out on the Air India flight after an air hostess accused the men of sexual harassment.
The 120 passengers watched as the pair left the jet controls to brawl in the aisle with the crew, the Times Of India reported.
As the row escalated the pilots threatened to divert the jet to Pakistan.
Air India said the two pilots had been de-rostered and an investigation has been been launched.
Two crew members have also been suspended.
A 24-year-old air hostess has filed a police complaint against one of the pilots for "outraging the modesty of a woman", the paper said.
The woman is alleged to have been pushed out of the cockpit after she deflected the pilots' attentions.
"The air hostess sustained bruises and injuries on her hand," Joint Commissioner of Police (operations) Satyendera Garg said.
"There are several eyewitnesses and we are recording their statements."
The brawl kicked off on the Airbus A-320 flight from Sharjah in the United Arab Emirates to Delhi.
But co-pilot Amit Khanna denied there had been a punch-up.
"There was no fight between us on the flight," he told the paper.
On a more serious note; often we poke fun at our "old" and "grumpy" looking FAs we have here in the US. Stories like this make me feel good about our crews though; we have our share of problems and disagreements but overall we are light years ahead of some other nations when it comes to fairness and equal treatment of women.
Stunned Passengers Watch Pilots Slug It Out
2:40pm UK, Sunday October 04, 2009
Two pilots have been grounded after they allegedly left their cockpit mid-flight to trade punches with crew members in front of stunned passengers.
Bash landing: The pilots have been suspended while a probe is carried out
Severe turbulence broke out on the Air India flight after an air hostess accused the men of sexual harassment.
The 120 passengers watched as the pair left the jet controls to brawl in the aisle with the crew, the Times Of India reported.
As the row escalated the pilots threatened to divert the jet to Pakistan.
Air India said the two pilots had been de-rostered and an investigation has been been launched.
Two crew members have also been suspended.
A 24-year-old air hostess has filed a police complaint against one of the pilots for "outraging the modesty of a woman", the paper said.
The woman is alleged to have been pushed out of the cockpit after she deflected the pilots' attentions.
"The air hostess sustained bruises and injuries on her hand," Joint Commissioner of Police (operations) Satyendera Garg said.
"There are several eyewitnesses and we are recording their statements."
The brawl kicked off on the Airbus A-320 flight from Sharjah in the United Arab Emirates to Delhi.
But co-pilot Amit Khanna denied there had been a punch-up.
"There was no fight between us on the flight," he told the paper.
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10-04-2009, 11:54 AM
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Turkish Airlines had a to do in the cockpit a fews years back. Made the news too. You know what they say... same airline... different paint job
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10-07-2009, 09:51 AM
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Pilots, crew in fistfight at 30,000 feet
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33175707/ns/travel-news/
Wow, how about THAT for CRM!! I would like to have been a fly on the galley wall on this one....
MUMBAI - A mid-air scuffle between pilots and crew of an Air India flight at the weekend did not endanger the 106 passengers on board, said a spokesman for the airline which has ordered an inquiry.
Two pilots and two crew members have been grounded following the incident on a Sharjah-Lucknow-Delhi flight, said Jitender Bhargava, which began as a heated exchange on a charge of sexual harassment against the pilots by a crew member.
Blows were also exchanged in the scuffle that spilled into the cabin late on Saturday night, according to media reports.
"At no stage was safety compromised. It was a clear case of indiscipline," Bhargava said.
"Our report is still awaited. We will decide on the course of action when it is ready," he said, adding that Delhi police were also investigating.
The ailing state-run carrier last week canceled dozens of flights when about 250 pilots went on strike to protest against plans to cut pay incentives as part of a broader cost-cutting exercise.
Wow, how about THAT for CRM!! I would like to have been a fly on the galley wall on this one....
MUMBAI - A mid-air scuffle between pilots and crew of an Air India flight at the weekend did not endanger the 106 passengers on board, said a spokesman for the airline which has ordered an inquiry.
Two pilots and two crew members have been grounded following the incident on a Sharjah-Lucknow-Delhi flight, said Jitender Bhargava, which began as a heated exchange on a charge of sexual harassment against the pilots by a crew member.
Blows were also exchanged in the scuffle that spilled into the cabin late on Saturday night, according to media reports.
"At no stage was safety compromised. It was a clear case of indiscipline," Bhargava said.
"Our report is still awaited. We will decide on the course of action when it is ready," he said, adding that Delhi police were also investigating.
The ailing state-run carrier last week canceled dozens of flights when about 250 pilots went on strike to protest against plans to cut pay incentives as part of a broader cost-cutting exercise.
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10-07-2009, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ZDub
Fixed...Sorry about that!
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10-07-2009, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Maybe it is just my computer then....but the website comes up but says that page not found (like it is an old link)
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10-07-2009, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ZDub
Blows were also exchanged in the scuffle that spilled into the cabin late on Saturday night, according to media reports.
"At no stage was safety compromised..."
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