Any COPA news?
#101
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For direct entry PIC jobs...
My little research so far has found that...
Risworth was (1 month) ago still asking for the JCAB license for Skymark, maybe it's changed in the last 30 days if Skymark can't find pilots.
Air Asia wants Airbus typed guys or so I was told 2 weeks ago.
Qatar will interview you into the left seat of the A320 if you have more than 2000 hrs PIC in something bigger than 50 tons. That means E190 or bigger. As far as I know they are not dropping that requirement yet.
FlyDubai will interview you with 1500 hrs PIC on aircraft over 55 tons. That means a MD80, A319/320, B737, etc.
Emirates is not hiring into the left seat.
Etihad will interview you if you have the type and time in type.
Jetstar Asia want you typed for the Singapore base.
Any India job on an Airbus or Boeing wants you typed.
Any China job on an Airbus or Boeing (narrow body) wants you typed and current.
Vietnam Airlines wants you typed and current on the Airbus.
My little research so far has found that...
Risworth was (1 month) ago still asking for the JCAB license for Skymark, maybe it's changed in the last 30 days if Skymark can't find pilots.
Air Asia wants Airbus typed guys or so I was told 2 weeks ago.
Qatar will interview you into the left seat of the A320 if you have more than 2000 hrs PIC in something bigger than 50 tons. That means E190 or bigger. As far as I know they are not dropping that requirement yet.
FlyDubai will interview you with 1500 hrs PIC on aircraft over 55 tons. That means a MD80, A319/320, B737, etc.
Emirates is not hiring into the left seat.
Etihad will interview you if you have the type and time in type.
Jetstar Asia want you typed for the Singapore base.
Any India job on an Airbus or Boeing wants you typed.
Any China job on an Airbus or Boeing (narrow body) wants you typed and current.
Vietnam Airlines wants you typed and current on the Airbus.
#103
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supporting and dont like lies about the big cash overseas.
and you work where?
#104
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found 12 captains with over 12000 hrs total,
i would assume 7 will make the screening.
why you are soooooooooo into to copa, did they turned you down?
#105
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Captain
Monthly
Annual
Salary
3,840.00
46,080.00
UnionPer diem
660.00
7,920.00
13thsalary (Extra month per year)
0
3,840.00
Guaranteed Per diem (63 hrs)
1,082.00
12,984.00
EstimatedPer diem*
1,938.00
21,318.00
Annual ProfitSharing(example 6 wks salary)**
0
5,760.00
Gross Income
7,520.00
97,902.00
Net Income
6,497.90
84,113.50
* Averageof 80 hours per month(in thelastyear). Vacations: 30 daysannualpaid
** Averagelast3 yearswas7 weeks. Annualcompensationbasedin 13 salaries
Monthly
Annual
Salary
3,840.00
46,080.00
UnionPer diem
660.00
7,920.00
13thsalary (Extra month per year)
0
3,840.00
Guaranteed Per diem (63 hrs)
1,082.00
12,984.00
EstimatedPer diem*
1,938.00
21,318.00
Annual ProfitSharing(example 6 wks salary)**
0
5,760.00
Gross Income
7,520.00
97,902.00
Net Income
6,497.90
84,113.50
* Averageof 80 hours per month(in thelastyear). Vacations: 30 daysannualpaid
** Averagelast3 yearswas7 weeks. Annualcompensationbasedin 13 salaries
Thats low but better than skymarks 9500 per month tax free in Tokyo....
Burger for 23 dollars anyone?
#107
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I don't have a dog in this fight but COPA's pay is really low. I get the e-mails from several contract agencies each week and this would be about as low as you can go without going to Whizz Air in the far nether regions of Eastern Europe.
What you have to balance before you jump ship is what you will be getting out of the deal. If you just want to live in Central America then that will count more to you than making better money elsewhere. For me to leave Airways I need to know that I will bank more money working overseas than staying here at a stagnant airline. So far that balance has not swung to leaving, although it is getting closer. When you leave the US you have to know that you will be on your own for more than basic medical, loss of license above a minimum amount, and your 401k or other retirement scheme. Once you are over 50 the last part becomes more of a focus.
Don't just look at raw salary, you have to look at the total cost of a contract. Where you live is important, I believe the reason you see China salaries so high is because China is a tougher place to deal with as an expat compared to Japan, Singapore, Korea, ot the MidEast. On this scale COPA is still way below everyone else. Panama is not really worth discounting your pay unless you really, really want a larger jet type rating and you are looking for a hot future ex wife.
What you have to balance before you jump ship is what you will be getting out of the deal. If you just want to live in Central America then that will count more to you than making better money elsewhere. For me to leave Airways I need to know that I will bank more money working overseas than staying here at a stagnant airline. So far that balance has not swung to leaving, although it is getting closer. When you leave the US you have to know that you will be on your own for more than basic medical, loss of license above a minimum amount, and your 401k or other retirement scheme. Once you are over 50 the last part becomes more of a focus.
Don't just look at raw salary, you have to look at the total cost of a contract. Where you live is important, I believe the reason you see China salaries so high is because China is a tougher place to deal with as an expat compared to Japan, Singapore, Korea, ot the MidEast. On this scale COPA is still way below everyone else. Panama is not really worth discounting your pay unless you really, really want a larger jet type rating and you are looking for a hot future ex wife.
#108
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against the others.
You say that, your friends in Copa tell you what is going on,
for instance the salary, you were talking the other time,whould be increased,the gringo friend of yours told you so but it is still the same.
Now you say Copa found 12 potential captains but only 7 will go for screening.I think you are talking bull****.
#109
Lot of misinformation here, the contract package at Skymark is at $16,300 a month without the contact completion bonus nor overtime pay, they also pay $1,000 a day if you volunteer to fly on one of your days off, this salary is net as opposed to the salary at Copa where you have to pay taxes to the Panamanian government and Japan is one of the countries that has a non double taxation agreement with the U.S. This information is from a close friend of more than 20 years that just started there. Another thing besides the taxes that hasn't been explained to folks about living in Panama is that if you have kids, international schools for them will run you at about $1,500USD/ month each, there are International schools in Japan that are pretty affordable for airline employees and my friends wife is a teacher in one of them so her contract has education for their kids for free (they pay some ridiculous amount like 120yen per kid per month or something like that) but even if you pay for it, their school allowance covers it for two kids. His housing allowance also covers his house because he lives in Nagoya, not central Tokyo, here in Narita for example, you can get a 2,000 sq. feet, 4 bedroom home for $1,500/ month, the same home in central Tokyo would run you $5,000 you don't have to live in central Tokyo, there are options. If you would have spent the same amount of time doing research that you spend spreading misinformation you would have picked another argument than food, food is the one thing that I think is at the same price as in the U.S. I have done many comparisons to what I spend here at the supermarket for groceries and what I spend in the U.S. and besides meat that is about 25% more expensive here, every thing else is pretty much the same and sea food is cheaper actually than what I pay in Minnesota, you can get a greasy burger in central Tokyo as cheap as you get it around your corner, with the same amount of cholesterol on it too, but in one of the most amazing cities on the planet, where you can have an incredible culinary experience, why would you do such a thing?
http://wasinc.net/News/Default.aspx?id=82
They have interviews in Seattle coming up, wonder how many JCAB licensed pilots they will find there
http://wasinc.net/News/Default.aspx?id=82
They have interviews in Seattle coming up, wonder how many JCAB licensed pilots they will find there
Last edited by The Dominican; 10-27-2011 at 08:53 AM.
#110
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), but it reduces the tax bill considerably. If you live in a state (US state, I mean) with a big income tax this won't help with that liability, though - most state taxes are based on your AGI, which is unaffected by a federal tax credit.
Last edited by rotorhead1026; 10-28-2011 at 12:22 AM.
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