Emirates Relief Pilots
#1
Emirates Relief Pilots
Hello All,
United Airlines 777 F/O here.
Quick question: How does Emirates (and everyone else globally) staff their augmented flights?
At United, under 8 hours, we have 1 captain and one fully type rated captain qualified F/O.
Over 8 hours we carry a second F/O then over 12 hours, a third F/O for a total of 4 crew-members
All F/O's are type rated, fully qualified and receive the same F/O pay rate. ($130/hr)
How is it done elsewhere?
United Airlines 777 F/O here.
Quick question: How does Emirates (and everyone else globally) staff their augmented flights?
At United, under 8 hours, we have 1 captain and one fully type rated captain qualified F/O.
Over 8 hours we carry a second F/O then over 12 hours, a third F/O for a total of 4 crew-members
All F/O's are type rated, fully qualified and receive the same F/O pay rate. ($130/hr)
How is it done elsewhere?
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Hello All,
United Airlines 777 F/O here.
Quick question: How does Emirates (and everyone else globally) staff their augmented flights?
At United, under 8 hours, we have 1 captain and one fully type rated captain qualified F/O.
Over 8 hours we carry a second F/O then over 12 hours, a third F/O for a total of 4 crew-members
All F/O's are type rated, fully qualified and receive the same F/O pay rate. ($130/hr)
How is it done elsewhere?
United Airlines 777 F/O here.
Quick question: How does Emirates (and everyone else globally) staff their augmented flights?
At United, under 8 hours, we have 1 captain and one fully type rated captain qualified F/O.
Over 8 hours we carry a second F/O then over 12 hours, a third F/O for a total of 4 crew-members
All F/O's are type rated, fully qualified and receive the same F/O pay rate. ($130/hr)
How is it done elsewhere?
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Actually, I was looking for places that use non type rated relief pilots at a lower pay rate. I was curious as to how low the bar was that we were competing against.
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Cathay on three man ops has a CA, Relief Qualified FO, and a third FO or SO.
A relief qualified FO is basically the cruise CA.
On current four man ops it is CA, RQ FO, FO, SO.
It may be changing according to rumors to CA, RQ FO, SO, SO, but that would result in one of the pilots in the seat for landing being completely exhausted and fatigued especially at the end of an ULH since SO's are not in the seat for TO or LDG.
A relief qualified FO is basically the cruise CA.
On current four man ops it is CA, RQ FO, FO, SO.
It may be changing according to rumors to CA, RQ FO, SO, SO, but that would result in one of the pilots in the seat for landing being completely exhausted and fatigued especially at the end of an ULH since SO's are not in the seat for TO or LDG.
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