Qantas shuts down
10-29-2011, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot
Ain't that the truth.
Can anyone say, Ansett.
Typhoonpilot
Can anyone say, Ansett.
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I just cannot believe this is happening to such an Iconic brand
10-29-2011, 02:22 PM
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I sincerely hope I'm I'm wrong but I'd bet my last buck that this is all part of the QF master plan.
Either the unions at QF cave and the Irishman gets his cheap labour.
Or
They'll end up bankrupting QF and Jetstar will come in and buy the assets and hey presto, they'll be re-branded the "new" Qantas. Again he'll get his cheap labour.
Either way, QF won't exist in its current form in 2 years time.
Either the unions at QF cave and the Irishman gets his cheap labour.
Or
They'll end up bankrupting QF and Jetstar will come in and buy the assets and hey presto, they'll be re-branded the "new" Qantas. Again he'll get his cheap labour.
Either way, QF won't exist in its current form in 2 years time.
10-29-2011, 08:56 PM
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Jetconnect (HUNGRY BEAST) - YouTube
Also see Qantas Pilots
This was pulled just before it went to air many months ago due to powers from above - ie. government or QF management most suspect. Sums up what is happening.
Jetconnect is just one of many entities now eating QF away from the inside. The current CEO has spent his whole time telling the world how crap QF is and how wonderful Jetstar is.
The only action taken by the pilots is to wear red ties with Qantas Flight, Qantas pilot written on them, and making a brief PA after arrival telling pax to look at the above website.
Also see Qantas Pilots
This was pulled just before it went to air many months ago due to powers from above - ie. government or QF management most suspect. Sums up what is happening.
Jetconnect is just one of many entities now eating QF away from the inside. The current CEO has spent his whole time telling the world how crap QF is and how wonderful Jetstar is.
The only action taken by the pilots is to wear red ties with Qantas Flight, Qantas pilot written on them, and making a brief PA after arrival telling pax to look at the above website.
10-30-2011, 12:06 AM
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The QF pilots are really getting it here for no good reason, hence the comments from the head of their union today ("we didn't know Alan Joyce was insane"). There has been no work to rule or strikes at all by the pilots group, so Joyce is perhaps heading down a very slippery slope.
I'd agree with Kenny, Joyce has been trying to kill QF for some time, then perhaps bring it back through the Jetstar entity once it's shut down. Pretty scary stuff.
On the other hand, John Borghetti was expecting the top job after Dixon but was passed over, likely as the Board wanted the low cost "expert" instead. Borghetti took the top job at Virgin and has changed the airline into a high end product, it would appear just in time for the Irishman to delete Virgins competition. When Borghetti was passed over he was fuming, and managed to take a heap of the top QF management with him.
Interestingly, before QF went down this path to destruction they made close to half a billion dollars a year under Dixon and Borghetti for the better part of a decade, even when other carriers world-wide were hemorrhaging cash.
They now have a discount arm making some money, and the mainline product bleeding, both in money and reputation. So how smart is this guy Joyce, and for that matter the board who not only hired him but gave him a massive raise the day before he shut the airline down.
Wild, wild stuff.
I'd agree with Kenny, Joyce has been trying to kill QF for some time, then perhaps bring it back through the Jetstar entity once it's shut down. Pretty scary stuff.
On the other hand, John Borghetti was expecting the top job after Dixon but was passed over, likely as the Board wanted the low cost "expert" instead. Borghetti took the top job at Virgin and has changed the airline into a high end product, it would appear just in time for the Irishman to delete Virgins competition. When Borghetti was passed over he was fuming, and managed to take a heap of the top QF management with him.
Interestingly, before QF went down this path to destruction they made close to half a billion dollars a year under Dixon and Borghetti for the better part of a decade, even when other carriers world-wide were hemorrhaging cash.
They now have a discount arm making some money, and the mainline product bleeding, both in money and reputation. So how smart is this guy Joyce, and for that matter the board who not only hired him but gave him a massive raise the day before he shut the airline down.
Wild, wild stuff.
10-30-2011, 02:57 AM
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Research the failed private equity takeover (APA bid).
Now search for who was involved in GAAM and what aircraft do they lease to Qantas?
Are a lot of the major private equity players all linked in the background?
Latest board appointments are finance people with private equity backgrounds.
Reported recently in the media that the main player in pushing for Joyce, one ex CEO (famous for telling the world what a piece of junk the 777 is) was reportedly involved in another private equity bid for QF.
Strange how the current CEO is hellbent on driving the share price down.
Every QF employee sniffs corruption on the grandest scale, yet the media is a puppet of QF.
Now search for who was involved in GAAM and what aircraft do they lease to Qantas?
Are a lot of the major private equity players all linked in the background?
Latest board appointments are finance people with private equity backgrounds.
Reported recently in the media that the main player in pushing for Joyce, one ex CEO (famous for telling the world what a piece of junk the 777 is) was reportedly involved in another private equity bid for QF.
Strange how the current CEO is hellbent on driving the share price down.
Every QF employee sniffs corruption on the grandest scale, yet the media is a puppet of QF.
10-30-2011, 07:43 AM
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From Associated Press:
An Australian court early Monday ended the union strikes and abrupt grounding of Qantas Airways fleet after it stranded tens of thousands of passengers.
The court ruled after hearing more than 14 hours of testimony over the weekend from the airline, the Australian government and unions. Workers have held strikes and refused overtime work out of worry that some of Qantas' 35,000 jobs would be moved overseas in a restructing plan.
The airline argued the strikes disrupted operations and it needed certainty to continue operating.
About 70,000 passengers fly Qantas daily, and would-be fliers this weekend were stuck at home, hotels, airports or even had to suddenly deplane when Qantas suspended operations Saturday. More than 60 flights were in the air at the time but flew to their destinations, and Qantas was paying for passengers to book other flights.
Qantas CEO Alan Joyce said before the panel ruled that the airline could be flying again within hours of a decision. He had estimated the grounding would cost the carrier $20 million a day.
German tourist Michael Messmann was trying to find a way home from Singapore on Sunday. He and his wife spent five weeks traveling around Australia but found their connecting flight home to Frankfurt suddenly canceled.
"I don't know the details of the dispute, but it seems like a severe reaction by the airline to shut down all their flights. That seems a bit extreme," said Messmann, 68. "After five weeks of traveling, we just want to go home."
Australian business traveler Graeme Yeatman sided with the airline, even though he was also trying to find a new flight home to Sydney on Sunday after his flight was canceled.
"I think the unions have too much power over Qantas. Even though this is an inconvenience for me, I'm glad the airline is drawing a line in the sand," said Yeatman, 41.
Court ends Qantas strike, fleet grounding - Business - World business - msnbc.com
An Australian court early Monday ended the union strikes and abrupt grounding of Qantas Airways fleet after it stranded tens of thousands of passengers.
The court ruled after hearing more than 14 hours of testimony over the weekend from the airline, the Australian government and unions. Workers have held strikes and refused overtime work out of worry that some of Qantas' 35,000 jobs would be moved overseas in a restructing plan.
The airline argued the strikes disrupted operations and it needed certainty to continue operating.
About 70,000 passengers fly Qantas daily, and would-be fliers this weekend were stuck at home, hotels, airports or even had to suddenly deplane when Qantas suspended operations Saturday. More than 60 flights were in the air at the time but flew to their destinations, and Qantas was paying for passengers to book other flights.
Qantas CEO Alan Joyce said before the panel ruled that the airline could be flying again within hours of a decision. He had estimated the grounding would cost the carrier $20 million a day.
German tourist Michael Messmann was trying to find a way home from Singapore on Sunday. He and his wife spent five weeks traveling around Australia but found their connecting flight home to Frankfurt suddenly canceled.
"I don't know the details of the dispute, but it seems like a severe reaction by the airline to shut down all their flights. That seems a bit extreme," said Messmann, 68. "After five weeks of traveling, we just want to go home."
Australian business traveler Graeme Yeatman sided with the airline, even though he was also trying to find a new flight home to Sydney on Sunday after his flight was canceled.
"I think the unions have too much power over Qantas. Even though this is an inconvenience for me, I'm glad the airline is drawing a line in the sand," said Yeatman, 41.
Court ends Qantas strike, fleet grounding - Business - World business - msnbc.com
10-30-2011, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bandit76
Jetconnect (HUNGRY BEAST) - YouTube
Also see Qantas Pilots
This was pulled just before it went to air many months ago due to powers from above - ie. government or QF management most suspect. Sums up what is happening.
Jetconnect is just one of many entities now eating QF away from the inside. The current CEO has spent his whole time telling the world how crap QF is and how wonderful Jetstar is.
The only action taken by the pilots is to wear red ties with Qantas Flight, Qantas pilot written on them, and making a brief PA after arrival telling pax to look at the above website.
Also see Qantas Pilots
This was pulled just before it went to air many months ago due to powers from above - ie. government or QF management most suspect. Sums up what is happening.
Jetconnect is just one of many entities now eating QF away from the inside. The current CEO has spent his whole time telling the world how crap QF is and how wonderful Jetstar is.
The only action taken by the pilots is to wear red ties with Qantas Flight, Qantas pilot written on them, and making a brief PA after arrival telling pax to look at the above website.
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