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08-27-2012 | 05:22 PM
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08-28-2012 | 01:19 AM
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From: Contract purgatory
Hey there Photon. Wow, that sucks. My mate at HKGXpress told me they had some Lion guys show up and that they were very low grade. I'll assume from what you are saying that they don't get much experience other than the number 500 in their log book.
Thanks for the correction. It does not sound like anything I'd call kosher.
My mate at HKGXpress, by the by was hired there with C208 and a bit of ATR 42 time. They payed for his rating and payed him. He's now at EK so not sure if Hainan is still doing thing's that way. . . they are not the most reputable empoyer in the Middle Kingdon.
Thanks for the correction. It does not sound like anything I'd call kosher.
My mate at HKGXpress, by the by was hired there with C208 and a bit of ATR 42 time. They payed for his rating and payed him. He's now at EK so not sure if Hainan is still doing thing's that way. . . they are not the most reputable empoyer in the Middle Kingdon.
08-28-2012 | 03:33 AM
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From: tri current
No. I mean, Lion Air only hires people through Eagle Jet.
Eagle Jet is a company which basically sells jobs. So you would pay Eagle Jet / Lion Air 40 000 dollars, to fly their 737 for free for 500 hours.
I'm not that desperate that I'm willing to pay to work. I thought most people on this forum were against the p2f mentality.
So I would rather wait, until I could find someplace that would hire me, and actually pay me.
Plus, I couldn't afford it anyway, took me some time to save up for the type rating in the first place
Eagle Jet is a company which basically sells jobs. So you would pay Eagle Jet / Lion Air 40 000 dollars, to fly their 737 for free for 500 hours.
I'm not that desperate that I'm willing to pay to work. I thought most people on this forum were against the p2f mentality.
So I would rather wait, until I could find someplace that would hire me, and actually pay me.
Plus, I couldn't afford it anyway, took me some time to save up for the type rating in the first place
Since you said you are going to pay for a type rating the logical follow on is places like Lion Air. Yes, it would be great if paying for type ratings was never done, but since you started the ball rolling by saying this you are already in the p2f mentality. That's not said in a mean manner, just an observation.
Since there are so many people willing to pay for type ratings ( note, especially in Europe ) the industry will feed on it. That leaves you with a tough decision. Stick it out moving up the food chain slowly without paying or take the risk of paying to move up the food chain faster.
Just think, if no pilot ever willingly paid for a type rating all airlines and corporate flight departments would have to pay for you.
Typhoonpilot
08-28-2012 | 08:55 PM
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Well if I'm not mistaken, 50 years ago the companies paid for all your training. From ppl to cpl and type.
I can sit still, and say "I'm not gonna pay for ****", and then 10 years down the line, I still don't have a job, while thousands of other people, who would have less qualms about it, would be flying.
It is still only training. And yes, in better times, airlines usually pay for it, but outside of the USA, this is becoming more and more a trend.
I draw the line at paying to work, your definition of p2f seems a bit more encompassing.
I can sit still, and say "I'm not gonna pay for ****", and then 10 years down the line, I still don't have a job, while thousands of other people, who would have less qualms about it, would be flying.
It is still only training. And yes, in better times, airlines usually pay for it, but outside of the USA, this is becoming more and more a trend.
I draw the line at paying to work, your definition of p2f seems a bit more encompassing.
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