HIFLYR

Remember FedEx asks about residency not address be careful they are not the same thing. For example having a U.S. address but claiming the expat deduction on taxes. You can use the link on the FedEx website to ask questions about your specific situation.

pilotrob23

Very weak rule. You are still an American citizen, and you still pay taxes?! Doesn't make sense, but what does in this industry?

rotorhead1026

That's perfectly legal using the "physical presence test", although few of us are able to qualify for this. I was, and my "legal" address was still stateside. Yeah, check with FedEx, and even then I'll bet the answer isn't set in concrete. Unfortunate.

captjns

It all goes to supply vs demand. The problem is that there is more supply of pilot employed in the US vs expat pilots wanting to come home to a job with, say Fed Ex. Until there is a shift in supply then Fed Ex through the USPS will stand by their requirements.

I've not had any problems with background or PRIAs over the years when applying with prospective companies back home. The main problem here remains pay, terms and conditions, and QOL.

The Dominican

I agree. But I don't think this is the case for the OP, if he is coming back from working in China his salary will be net (taxes paid by the company) he wouldn't be filing under the foreign tax exception but rather under the non-double taxation.
But I think we took a wrong road here, someone explain to me as to why the way he files his taxes is any of a potential employer's business, that is between him and his overbearing uncle.
The question is if coming back from a job in the international market will affect you in any way (well, negatively rather because his résumé will look a LOT more interesting) to get a job back in the US, NO! Why would it? I have expatriate myself a couple of times throughout my career without a problem getting back, in the end of the 80's I was working abroad and started applying with the majors, got the pool without any problems, there are many guys that I know that worked at KAL, EK, AJX that have gotten jobs back in the US (and no, not returning from a furlough) the only job that specifies the 5 years previous living in the US is FedEx, but I don't even think that is an issue here either, the OP has his address in the US, he files his taxes, keeps his drivers license, has his bank account, his family ties, everything is based on his physical address which is in the US. I have several places in different parts of the world, including my apartment in Narita and my homes in the Caribbean, how much time I spend a year in any of my places is irrelevant. Another one of our pilots has two homes in the US (one of them is his physical address) has his apartment in Narita and bought a home in Bangkok, his physical address is his physical address, a lot of people has paid the ultimate price to assure that he doesn't have to report to the politburo, how he distributes his time between his homes.

Typhoonpilot

Just be aware that their are stories of Fedex terminating new hires after they found out information on the application was not 100% truthful.

I thought there was a thread about that somewhere, but I couldn't find it.


TP

chazbird

Regardless of whether I have an appropriate address and regardless of whether I ever work for FedEx or not, doesn't it bother any of you that this contract stipulation exists? Besides being insulting, stupid, fearful, paranoid, and its reasoning being utterly unfounded its discriminatory. Being a U.S. citizen, without a felony or other criminal disqualifications, supposedly allows you to work for any U.S. company (should you meet their qualifications). Where's the crime in working overseas? Are you a terrorist? They have to prove it. (or is this punishment for having the gall to work for better pay and conditions elsewhere?)

This stipulation is ripe for a decent employment attorney to make real hay over this with the USPS - I am confident there's a strong case against it. (Like I have the means to do so!) One also has to wonder about FedEx's deepest drives. They signed this to get the contract, in a way it is perhaps telling about what they think about U.S. citizens rights to work in their own country. Good luck getting hired by FedEx or anyone if it is found you are the one who filed such a lawsuit. Wonderful career Chapter XXIV.

EXPAT1

This comes up quite often in the FED EX forums. Remember it has nothing to do with your tax filing and not where you keep an address, it is where you have resided, ie physically stayed.

At FedEx it depends on where you resided while flying for a foreign airline.
Candidates for jobs involving handling or access to U.S. mail cannot be considered for employment if they have resided outside the U.S., Guam or Puerto Rico for more than (6) six months during the last (5) years prior to today's date, other than the following verifiable exceptions: active duty in the U.S. Uniformed Service; trailing spouse or dependent of someone working for the U.S. government (military or civilian); missionary; student attending school in a foreign country; Peace Corps participant; employee of a U.S. based employer/company or other extraordinary circumstances.

chazbird

Thanks for the embedded statement. In my case I can't figure out whether I qualify or disqualify or not. There needs to be a definition of "resided". Otherwise it sounds as if it is open to interpretation.

FedEx is hiring pilots (at least some). Are they hiring U.S. consular officials to fly the mail? Are they hiring missionary's? No, but they are hiring pilot's, pilot's who may have flown the same type of equipment, and especially have flown in international operations, something FedEx no doubt considers valuable experience they'd seek. There's a case against this, US citizen anti-discrimination, and just common sense fairness.

It is important to try to bring this to light, lawsuit or not. Am I ax grinding again? Maybe. But there's a portion in law making that relies on "precedent". If this sets some sort of precedent one can only wonder what examples might follow.

HIFLYR

Thanks for the embedded statement. In my case I can't figure out whether I qualify or disqualify or not. There needs to be a definition of "resided". Otherwise it sounds as if it is open to interpretation.

Really this is pretty easy as I have pointed out just send a email and tell them your situation. Guess what they will respond with a answer. [email protected]