ICAO (rules) ATP PIC Question
02-05-2013, 11:41 AM
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ICAO (rules) ATP PIC Question
I've been told that you need a valid ATPL to act as PIC in ICAO (international) airports. Where can I find this in writing? I've searched all over and can't find it.
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02-05-2013, 12:53 PM
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Where we're you told that zircon of knowledge? Not true and, if it were true, how would non-ATPL fly internationally as they clearly do?
Secondly, ICAO does not issue "rules", they issue "Standards and Recommended Practices" (SARPs) which are not binding unless put into regulation by State Authorities.
GF
Secondly, ICAO does not issue "rules", they issue "Standards and Recommended Practices" (SARPs) which are not binding unless put into regulation by State Authorities.
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02-05-2013, 04:25 PM
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Our retired DO came in and was just talking and it came up. He pretty much swore by it, so I said well maybe he's right, but out of redirect I didn't want to challenge the guy in front of other co-workers, so I decided to research it.
I've done some "international" flying in the Caribbean and didn't have my ATPL at the time, so I was very curios. I'm aware they don't issue rules, poor choice of words, but I just was trying to verify info.
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I've done some "international" flying in the Caribbean and didn't have my ATPL at the time, so I was very curios. I'm aware they don't issue rules, poor choice of words, but I just was trying to verify info.
Thanks!
CV
02-06-2013, 03:14 AM
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Natca is correct, this is only on scheduled air carrier operations. Read what Galaxy wrote again, ICAO is NOT a regulatory agency, they are an association and the members agree to operate within an framework of rules and regulations. Now the question is, has the FAA issue a mandate to operate as PIC with an ATP on all flights coming into the US? Because in spite of popular believe, the USA is an ICAO member.......!
02-06-2013, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dominican
Natca is correct, this is only on scheduled air carrier operations. Read what Galaxy wrote again, ICAO is NOT a regulatory agency, they are an association and the members agree to operate within an framework of rules and regulations. Now the question is, has the FAA issue a mandate to operate as PIC with an ATP on all flights coming into the US? Because in spite of popular believe, the USA is an ICAO member.......!
Hello Dominican
I undestand you know a lot about T&C's of Japanese companies as well as JCAB regulations.
My question is, do you know whether or not JCAB requires specific absence period from last duty before a candidate can applied to a company?
Most of the companies require last flight 12 months or 18 months the most
before the application can be accepted.
Can JCAB demand from the companies specific recency or it is comany's discretion to ask for any recency?
02-06-2013, 09:29 AM
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JCAB doesn't have such requirements that I am aware of anymore than the FAA, JAA or any other ICAO member state, now haven said that, if the approved training program presented by the company (typically known as "experienced pilot" programs, hence only six months of training) has any requirements that are more restrictive than those specified within the regulations, then those new requirements become the minimums to start that specific training program. In some cases, those minimums are agreed upon by the mainline carrier offering the expat contract and their pilot group, there are some contracts that specify minimum hours and recent experience based on the outsourcing agreement, not on any regulatory requirement.
02-06-2013, 06:22 PM
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I am not sure about Japan, but immigration also gets a say in who gets granted a Visa to work in almost every country. You are being hired as a "foreign expert", or whatever that particular country calls it.
When you see the requirements listed for a contract job, you don't always know who set the requirements.
It could be the company (maybe flexible)
local Civil Aviation Authority (probably not flexible)
immigration (not flexible)
When you see the requirements listed for a contract job, you don't always know who set the requirements.
It could be the company (maybe flexible)
local Civil Aviation Authority (probably not flexible)
immigration (not flexible)
02-07-2013, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Convair5800
I've been told that you need a valid ATPL to act as PIC in ICAO (international) airports. Where can I find this in writing? I've searched all over and can't find it.
Thanks,
CV
Thanks,
CV
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