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Puppyz 12-19-2006 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer (Post 93402)
You don't have to be confused. We have different definitions of career success. For me its means not having to work in an another country for a foreign carrier. There are plenty of good pilot jobs in the USA.

-LAFF


I wouldn't really agree to that. While there are quite a few good companies to work for, it's not so easy to get those jobs. The majors and fractionals have a LOT of applications just sitting on file. I've heard theres over 10,000 applications over at fedex (dont know how accurate that is, maybe that was netjets). Considering they hire about 1000 or less pilots a year, odds are not exactly in your favor when you apply. Not everyone who wants to fly for a major will actually make it to a major. With the way the industry is now, I know it's not smart to pass up on a good opportunity if it presents itself. I plan on keeping my options open.

bus canuck 12-19-2006 06:18 PM


As long as there are such things in the world as Canadians, Australians and South Africans(read: 3rd world countries of aviation). CX will NEVER have to pay more. There are endless supplies of B1900 drivers from those places applying.
Now that's just nasty. :mad:

flyfresno 12-26-2006 03:21 AM

Everyone wants something different. And there's nothing wrong with that. To some pilots, staying within the US is important. Good for them. I simply want to be based in California and fly the 747. Short of flying for United (where it would probably take 30 years to make it to the 747), Cathay is probably the best option for that. I'm glad for all the people who want to stay within the US...it means less competition for me. :D

freezingflyboy 12-26-2006 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer (Post 91372)
I'm trying to get the guy to think a little bit...



Do you honestly think people want to be SO for 4 years then an FO for a few more before being a Captain when they could be a CA in the US in 1/2 that time?



-LAFF

If you were actually involved in the industry you would see that the job of CA is not all that different from FO. Just when it comes down to it and a decision needs to be made, you get to make it. Yes, you get to log PIC but what does it matter when you are already at a "career airline"? Cathay is a career airline. An FO at Cathay makes about what an RJ CA makes in the US. I, for one, would have no problem going to Cathay as an SO, upgrading to CA in 8-10 years on the 747 or A340 and growing old and grey there. But if you want to log all the PIC you can in an RJ, go nuts. If numbers in a log book are what you deem important, then I guess to each his own. I personally will take QOL any day.

dojetdriver 12-26-2006 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 95856)
If you were actually involved in the industry you would see that the job of CA is not all that different from FO. Just when it comes down to it and a decision needs to be made, you get to make it. Yes, you get to log PIC but what does it matter when you are already at a "career airline"? Cathay is a career airline. An FO at Cathay makes about what an RJ CA makes in the US. I, for one, would have no problem going to Cathay as an SO, upgrading to CA in 8-10 years on the 747 or A340 and growing old and grey there. But if you want to log all the PIC you can in an RJ, go nuts. If numbers in a log book are what you deem important, then I guess to each his own. I personally will take QOL any day.

Yeah dude, thats what I told him on page 1.

BaylorPilot 12-26-2006 04:04 PM

I think I have the dumbest question ever. Is the ICAO Commercial the same as my FAA? Don't laugh....

kalyx522 12-26-2006 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by BaylorPilot (Post 95984)
I think I have the dumbest question ever. Is the ICAO Commercial the same as my FAA? Don't laugh....

that's not a dumb question.. I've wondered it at some point as I too have ambitions for CX some day in the far future. I looked it up on the ICAO website before.. if your pilot certificate was issued by a country that is part of ICAO, then yes, it is an ICAO certificate. In other words, FAA certificate = ICAO certificate.

BaylorPilot 12-27-2006 02:37 PM

Okay good. I was going to apply but when I was in the middle of filling out my app the webpage went out on me and now I can not log back in. I have tried emailing pilot recruitment but have yet to hear back from them. Anybody have a good email address for them so I can try to fix my problem. Also does anybody know how competitive the SO positions are? my times are 1010/360. I know its low but at the mins.

FIT59 12-28-2006 09:26 PM

The earthquake in Taipei the other day damaged telecommunications cables to most of SE Asia, Hong Kong especially. The internet has been degraded by about 50 percent. CX and other businesses are frantically trying to go through other vendors, but it may take a couple of weeks.

When you are hired at CX they put you through a license conversion course. You end up having to take between 4 and 8 written exams, then the practical exams for the type and instrument rating are accomplished on your sim checks. Someone earlier mentioned having to take a "NASA type physical" but I believe he is referring to JAL. The medical at CX is comprehensive, but no more so than an FAA 1st class medical. They will do a blood test and a chest X Ray, but that's the only difference.

Hong Kong is a lot of fun, and I could see myself living there for a few years. As a HKG based pilot CX will pay for your housing. As a year 1 SO I think its about 24K HKD a month, then after your 2nd year its over 50K HKD a month. That's $3000 and $6400 US respectively. Granted they will not pay you that in cash, but you won't have to worry about rent or your HK mortgage. That plus the flat HK 16% tax, the 13th month pay check, excellent health benefits and retirement scheme and the total compensation for an SO (or based pilot) blows away most US carriers (even majors). Weigh all the options, but I think CX is one of the top career choices for a pilot.

ERJDCA 01-12-2007 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by BaylorPilot (Post 96343)
Okay good. I was going to apply but when I was in the middle of filling out my app the webpage went out on me and now I can not log back in. I have tried emailing pilot recruitment but have yet to hear back from them. Anybody have a good email address for them so I can try to fix my problem. Also does anybody know how competitive the SO positions are? my times are 1010/360. I know its low but at the mins.


Competitive times for S/O's is currently around 3500-4000TT with at least 1000+ Turbine/Jet. They were F/O's and CA's with U.S regionals or freight outfits. I have not met anyone with less experiance yet.

For F/O's it is that + quite a bit Jet/Turbine PIC/Heavy Jet.

Absolutely apply, when it comes time they will see you were interested from the very beginning.

Good Luck.


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