jcountry

OK-

What's everyone's union telling them about the strategy to deal with NAI now that Trump didn't life a finger to help us?

Ours says that there are multiple strategies they are pursuing. I 'm wondering what others are hearing.

David Puddy

Can we also discuss how we should prevent WOW Airlines of Iceland, Eurowings of Germany (LH subsidiary) and BA's proposed Barcelona-based low cost longhaul subsidiary from offering similar dirt cheap fares as well? Can we force NAI to cancel all of its multi-billion dollar orders from Boeing for the Dreamliner and 737-800MAX as well??????

mainlineAF

Why don't you go back to creaming over the cs100.

full of luv

Will WOW use Iceland work rules? Will Eurowings use German unions? Will BA use Spanish work rules? That is the discriminator, is the offshoring just to break unions and and western work rules or just to compete from a new base. Norwegian is allowed to fly from Norway to the US at will, of course those work rules cost too much to allow them to do it for $199 each way.

mainlineAF

Please don't bring facts into this.

David Puddy

OK - if NAI only hires UK citizens for its UK AOC will you be OK with that? Don't be surprised if that happens as a way to appease the protectionist crowds. And the more fuel efficient aircraft like the Dreamliner and the upcoming A321LR help reduce CASMs to the point where they can be profitable - lower pilot wages are not the only reason why NAI can make a profit. Meanwhile, Delta uses a lot of aging 767-300s and 757s over the Atlantic that can't compete on a CASM basis.

Last time I checked, bilateral air treaties did not focus on work rules/wages. If that were the case, Chinese airlines could be blasted due to the extremely low relative wages paid to local Chinese pilots flying 777s and A380s to the US... What about pilots flying for some of the other Mexican airlines serving the US like Interjet and Volaris? Are those pilots paid US legacy wage levels? Are their A320 Captains making even US Regional Captain wages? If not, let's ban them from flying here.

jcountry

Last time I checked, there wasn't a job worth having on a cruise liner....

Troll on sir. Troll on.

tomgoodman

I saw a guy on Holland America who has been all over the world and usually has only an hour or so of light duty per day, but it's not an easy job to get.
He was a priest.

Typhoonpilot

There is a great strategy that could be employed, but the dimwits at ALPA National will probably never figure it out and I'm not going to tell them unless they pay me a huge consultant fee


TP

Typhoonpilot

I've brought that one up before David, but it doesn't fit the narrow talking points that ALPA has come up with. At $4000/month for Captains at both of those places they are at half to less than half of what Norwegian pays, yet are somehow not a concern for U.S. competition on flights to/from Mexico

ALPA's strategy is to scare the public into thinking this will be the Maritime industry all over again. Fatal flaw to that strategy is that nobody in the public or government care. The ALPA brain trust is pure genius, genius I tell you!!


Typhoonpilot