GeeWizDriver

Yea boooy!

And don't forget, the same schmucks that negotiated the last POS will negotiate the IBB too! Yea!!!!! High fives all around....



It will be called the CC 4

Four days off per bid period. Think of the money you'll save on not needing a house!

BuckeyeFO

"efficiencies with the potential to enhance productivity and to put more money in pilot paychecks"

So:
More OT "opportunity" ?
Allowing for more extending when on the 7/7 or CC60 schedule ?
Waiving 14 hours for part 91 legs or airlining ?

What I didn't see:
"improved pay rates"
"improved QOL"

Work harder fellas and we'll give you some crumbs.

AntiPeter

Ditto. Our union leadership have demonstrated their inabilities. CBA, lawsuit, insecure/secretive.

They should just stick with their ultra-important drone and industry conventions in Hawaii.

I expect nothing but a regression.

Jetlife

He made it very clear that there is no money involved, and it will be cost neutral changes, so expect another tomato on your salad but 2 less croutons.

GeeWizDriver

If the IBB focus isn't fatigue mitigation and MAJOR improvements to Section 20, I'm an absolute NO vote.


In other words, I'm a NO vote....

AntiPeter

I typically wouldn't have a problem opening up a CBA, but I didn't feel the union leadership was honest or transparent with the 2015 CBA. I don't trust them and wish we had new leadership. I'm not comfortable with them opening up the current agreement as they do seem to be good at selling crap to the pilot group, unfortunately.

I quite frankly can't work anymore, I can't be more efficient. My average duty day is right around 12 hours. The company has maxed me out (which our current CBA does very well). Pilots in my fleet often fly tired, exhausted and disinterested because they are overworked. There is nothing left to give to the company.

KTM Rider

NetJets is already getting 120% of production out of the pilots by harassing pilots for using the fatigue language in the contract and now the new company attendance policy for pilots calling in sick on day 1 and last day of a tour (trip).

NetJets is doing this because pilots are leaving in droves (18 pilots quit over the last month. Pilot attrition has been around 10 -12 per month). Even former and current management pilots have resigned. The company is becoming so short handed on pilots (due to the poor and substandard work rules and constant harassment) that 50 management pilots were forced back on to the road. Most likely, we'll see more former management pilots resign because they're now experiencing to high work load and high expectations that current line pilots are experiencing.

Now, NetJets wants to meet with the union to modify certain sections of the contract to increase productivity, cost neutral. What that means is, they can't find pilots that want to work at NetJets, and current pilots are leaving. I wonder why. Basically, the company now wants to increase productivity from 120% to 140%. Again, cost neutral. I highly doubt that it will a win for the pilots. It will just be more dangling carrots for pilots to push themselves for a dollar. Safety will be compromised.

Anyone that is considering employment at NetJets, I would seriously reconsider it. You will be expected to be highly productive otherwise, you will be questioned by management. Being safe is not productive.

With the history of the last two contracts, 2007IBB, 2015CBA, I do not expect improvements to 2015IBI. The improvements will be in favor for NetJets. Because NetJets is unable to find, Meats in the Seat, to move metal.

KTM Rider

This statement cannot be further from the truth. It's unfortunate to see a company go from being a hero to a zero during one of the largest hiring booms in aviation.

I wonder if NetJets will start offering hiring bonuses. Offer $5000 and a few carrots and possibly get an additional $5000 after being with NetJets after 10 years, as a first officer.

Jetlife

NetJets was only a hero when the rest of the industry was crap. Netjets has never, and will never stack evenly with the airline industry.

This attempt is another example of how management completely drives the ship and the union is trying too nicely to get anything to try and help. They need to be way more aggressive if they want to get anything from management.

No increase in salaries is a non starter.

BuckeyeFO

when 95% of the line pilots were hired in 2008 or earlier, you'll always have the pilots at a disadvantage.
We (the pilots) have too much at stake with the company.
Guys will continue to make miracles happen everyday, cut corners, carry mx, ect.
All we've heard is how "NJA doesn't make a lot of profit" and "there is no other job where you can make XXX as a Phenom captain".

The pilot group is not as flexible as pilots at traditional airlines (bc of home basing and medical) and with more than 50% of the pilots being 15+ years, there is a willingness to sacrifice for the "good" of the company.

Being a captain is a good job. Being a lifelong FO is horrible.
Pilots will again be asked to carry more water to keep things going and bc of pilot demographics, they'll do it.
That doesn't mean the IBI will be voted in per se, but that the A Teamers out there and extension-wh0res will do what they do best: have no spine.