July 9 NJA Indoc
#11
Section 13.2(c) States:
The Company may open new Domiciles at its discretion...
and
The Company agrees to provide 90 days written notice of new Domicile openings to the Union and all crewmembers.
#12
They have the contractual power to open as many domiciles as they want WHENEVER they want!!
Sounds like "Union-Busting" CRAP to me!!!!!! I love it how they're trying to make our Union look like the bad guys.
#13
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From: FE, FO, CAPT.
Thanks for the welcome, I can't wait to get started. Derinda mentioned that they "the company" wanted to open 20 new domiciles but the union said homebasing or nothing. Who knows. I came on board with my eyes open knowing that I'll have to commute. Just part of the job for me. I plan to move to CMH once I make a year.....
"Section 13.2 Domestic Domicile Openings and Closings:"
"The Company may open new Domiciles at its discretion, however, a crewmember assigned to, or who has designated a domicile, cannot be involuntarily assigned to a different or new domicile, except as may be provided elsewhere in this agreement. The company agrees to provide 90 days written notice of new Domicile openings to the unioin and all crewmembers. The notice to the crewmembers may be sent via the comapny issued communications devices."
"13.2 (c)i: In the event that the company elects to close a domicile, 90 days written notice must be provided to the union and the affected domicile crewmembers. The notice...may be sent via company issued communications devices. Said crewmembers will be redesignated as home based airport crewmembers and shall have the right to designate the closed domicile as a HBA; provided it meets the HBA qualifying criteria listed..."
Can't understand why Derinda would say such a thing. Just remember, what Derinda tells you doesn't count...only the contract does.
#14
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She made it quite clear that there are 5 domiciles and that they were hiring into all 5 of them. She wasn't saying to plan on 20 opening up. Just that they asked and the union said homebasing or nothing. As an applicant I didn't read that much into it. I knew that I had a choice of 5 and a commute was going to be part of the job. You guys probably have a different perspective on this than me.
she also said once we were flying the line after IOE plan on 7 and 7 cuz the reserve is senior. Is that true?
she also said once we were flying the line after IOE plan on 7 and 7 cuz the reserve is senior. Is that true?
#15
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This is perplexing to me. Derinda must certainly be familiar with the working agreement. It plainly says that the company may open or close domiciles anywhere, anytime without permission from the union.
"Section 13.2 Domestic Domicile Openings and Closings:"
"The Company may open new Domiciles at its discretion, however, a crewmember assigned to, or who has designated a domicile, cannot be involuntarily assigned to a different or new domicile, except as may be provided elsewhere in this agreement. The company agrees to provide 90 days written notice of new Domicile openings to the unioin and all crewmembers. The notice to the crewmembers may be sent via the comapny issued communications devices."
"13.2 (c)i: In the event that the company elects to close a domicile, 90 days written notice must be provided to the union and the affected domicile crewmembers. The notice...may be sent via company issued communications devices. Said crewmembers will be redesignated as home based airport crewmembers and shall have the right to designate the closed domicile as a HBA; provided it meets the HBA qualifying criteria listed..."
Can't understand why Derinda would say such a thing. Just remember, what Derinda tells you doesn't count...only the contract does.
"Section 13.2 Domestic Domicile Openings and Closings:"
"The Company may open new Domiciles at its discretion, however, a crewmember assigned to, or who has designated a domicile, cannot be involuntarily assigned to a different or new domicile, except as may be provided elsewhere in this agreement. The company agrees to provide 90 days written notice of new Domicile openings to the unioin and all crewmembers. The notice to the crewmembers may be sent via the comapny issued communications devices."
"13.2 (c)i: In the event that the company elects to close a domicile, 90 days written notice must be provided to the union and the affected domicile crewmembers. The notice...may be sent via company issued communications devices. Said crewmembers will be redesignated as home based airport crewmembers and shall have the right to designate the closed domicile as a HBA; provided it meets the HBA qualifying criteria listed..."
Can't understand why Derinda would say such a thing. Just remember, what Derinda tells you doesn't count...only the contract does.
#16
I didn't get the sense that she was union bashing just trying to be informative. It may have even been in response to the domicile question, I don't recall to be honest with you. I just remember her saying they'd like to open up 20 more but it had to be all or nothing. She might have even been saying that was prior to the contract. I don't recall. Hate to start something with her as she was just great during the interview process and made it quite enjoyable.
Let me repeat.... The Company does NOT need the Union's permission to open or close domiciles!!! It is their contractual right to do so ANYTIME they choose.
They could open up 20 more this afternoon if they wanted -- they do not need the Union's "okay" to do so. The argument that the Union said "all or nothing" doesn't add up.
#20
I too will be there on the 9th of July. X to LAX.
For those that like the timeline:
Cover letter sent on 13 Dec 06
App package received sometime after the new year.
Package sent out on 30 Jan 07
App accepted by e-mail on 13 Feb
Interview Invite e-mail received 1 Mar
Interview 5 Apr
Job offer 26 Apr
Indoc 9 July
Probation ends 8 July 08.
Interview info will be forth coming on the appropriate sites shortly.
For those that like the timeline:
Cover letter sent on 13 Dec 06
App package received sometime after the new year.
Package sent out on 30 Jan 07
App accepted by e-mail on 13 Feb
Interview Invite e-mail received 1 Mar
Interview 5 Apr
Job offer 26 Apr
Indoc 9 July
Probation ends 8 July 08.
Interview info will be forth coming on the appropriate sites shortly.
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