Originally Posted by got2fly

Having been in this business for 38 years, I've never seen an environment where it is so EASY to build a career and get a job. You have no idea what you've got. I've been through 3 airline bankruptcies and a furlough. I've worked for next to nothing whey you couldn't BUY a job. You don't see much of that these days. If you can't move your career forward in this environment, you're either INCOMPETENT or LAZY. If you think you can shame me or anyone else for wanting to work and be productive, good luck. If you're going to whine about how your career is stymied by others who want to work and fly airplanes, you're not going to get any sympathy from me.

It's a free country. Do whatever you want to do. If that is playing golf every day and flying your Cessna 172 for fun, then do it. If that is continuing your productive career as long as it is safe and legal, do it. Who are these snot nose kids who think they can tell people that working for a living is not "honorable"? Quit whining about your job prospects and go back to work. Or go cry to your mama. I'm not listening.

Originally Posted by got2fly

If that is continuing your productive career as long as it is safe and legal, do it. Who are these snot nose kids who think they can tell people that working for a living is not "honorable"? Quit whining about your job prospects and go back to work. Or go cry to your mama. I'm not listening.

Originally Posted by Packrat

As Mr. Spock would say, "Colloquially expressed, but essentially correct."

You'll get your left seat, Son. With the major airline retirement landscape in the next 10 years, probably sooner than you deserve it.

Originally Posted by OhSnapAF

Don't be silly, there is no way to manipulate the schedule and work the contract to get paid more. You are at the whim of scheduling, and your only way of making more money is flying tired. Don't fatigue during your scheduled work trip, then when you go home day comes up, you extend.

Originally Posted by DenVa

Man, these threads always turn out the same...

The W2 thread will be revived soon enough. I guess it will settle the argument, lol. #sarcasm

Originally Posted by DH2time

Please educate me and tell me how knowing the CBA will help a pilot make more at NJA. They have no control over what they do on a daily basis.

Can I swap a tour for one paying premium time? Can I swap out a low paying tour for a higher paying one over the same days? What can one do but work more days??

Originally Posted by Flyfalcons

As long as you understand that it's a majority of NetJets pilots that want a mandatory retirement age here. Why do you feel that is?

Originally Posted by Flyfalcons

As long as you understand that it's a majority of NetJets pilots that want a mandatory retirement age here. Why do you feel that is?

I also love hearing about upgrade times from a recently retired airline pilot whose upgrade was based on Age 60 retirements, then was given until 65 to retire. How quaint.

Originally Posted by Twofiddyatten

You only want a mandatory retirement age so you can finally track your progress and seniority to becoming captain. To have an actual timeline of gaining seniority etc. which is totally fine. But it’s a bit hypocritical when people want a mandatory retirement age for mostly selfish reasons, only to call retired airline pilots selfish for going to fly at NetJets.