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Scormunch 06-04-2013 11:24 AM

Has anyone with a resume in heard about a class date yet? I'm fairly competitive with times but all I've gotten is the auto-reply so far.

PDK1011 06-04-2013 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Scormunch (Post 1421797)
Has anyone with a resume in heard about a class date yet? I'm fairly competitive with times but all I've gotten is the auto-reply so far.

Same here. Heard a July class maybe?!?

Scormunch 06-04-2013 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by PDK1011 (Post 1421820)
Same here. Heard a July class maybe?!?

That's the rumor. I figured if its an early July class (I heard July 9th) then the process would be underway already. :confused:

jpso 06-06-2013 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Scormunch (Post 1421868)
That's the rumor. I figured if its an early July class (I heard July 9th) then the process would be underway already. :confused:


Yes, there is a July 9th class with people already scheduled to attend. However, the class is not filled. Pilot interviews are continuing this month as well.

HolyATP 06-16-2013 12:54 PM

Has the July class been filled?

flyman128 06-16-2013 01:43 PM

Interviews are still going on, not sure how many spots have been filled out of the 8.

HolyATP 06-16-2013 02:31 PM

I have been updating my resume every 2 weeks, got an interview with Republic end of this month, wish they would call before Republic hires me lol.

Slats 06-16-2013 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by HolyATP (Post 1429281)
I have been updating my resume every 2 weeks, got an interview with Republic end of this month, wish they would call before Republic hires me lol.

Just out of curiosity, why RP?

HolyATP 06-16-2013 08:50 PM

Close to home, have a good buddy flying there for 9yrs, I'm ready to step up to the next level of my aviation career.

feltf4 06-17-2013 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by HolyATP (Post 1429408)
Close to home, have a good buddy flying there for 9yrs, I'm ready to step up to the next level of my aviation career.

If you are flying a Q-200 right now like your little avatar tag says. Coming to PS will not be a "step up" in your career. It will be a step up in QOL. But if you are looking for a step up in your career. This is most likely not the place.

MiGBoy 06-17-2013 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 1429464)
If you are flying a Q-200 right now like your little avatar tag says. Coming to PS will not be a "step up" in your career. It will be a step up in QOL. But if you are looking for a step up in your career. This is most likely not the place.

I think in this context he was referring to Republic, was he not?

feltf4 06-17-2013 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by MiGBoy (Post 1429542)
I think in this context he was referring to Republic, was he not?

Correct. Thats why I was asking why would he want to come to PS if he wanted to step up his career?

HolyATP 06-18-2013 04:00 PM

Flying a Pilatus PC-12 would be a step up in a different direction as compared to flying for Republic. I have always liked the PC-12 and would like a chance to fly it and be paid a decent salary. If I wanted to make the majors my life time goal, then Republic would be a better choice for me. I was based in SYR and couldn't stand it so I left. I haven't updated my Avitar, looks like if Republic hires me it will say Q-400.

jpso 06-22-2013 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by HolyATP (Post 1430447)
Flying a Pilatus PC-12 would be a step up in a different direction as compared to flying for Republic. I have always liked the PC-12 and would like a chance to fly it and be paid a decent salary. If I wanted to make the majors my life time goal, then Republic would be a better choice for me. I was based in SYR and couldn't stand it so I left. I haven't updated my Avitar, looks like if Republic hires me it will say Q-400.

When we switched to the 8 on 6 off schedule, after taxes, including per diem I was bringing home $38K as a an FO. The pay isn't terrible but the 8 and 6 is not very desireable in my opinion.

HolyATP 06-23-2013 12:01 PM

I'd have to agree with you there, would be a change in living to adapt too indeed.

jpso 09-29-2013 06:08 AM

PlaneSense will be hiring more First Officers starting Jan 2014. Theyre not going to be picking only those that live in New England. DO said PSM or PDK and as many as he can get. Good luck to those interested.

SkylaneRG 10-07-2013 11:54 AM

I read on the first couple pages the FO time is pretty useless. Is that still the case or is it able to be logged now? Also what is the upgrade time?


Thanks!

hubbs 10-07-2013 06:34 PM

It is not useless and can, indeed, be logged. Typically, FOs will fly the empty Part 91 legs, and log 61.51 PIC. Live legs, the SIC is required by 135 or 91K and thus SIC is logged.

Depending on your career goals, there are definitely better stepping stone jobs out there, but all in all it is a decent company.

Back in 2011-2012 upgrade was around a year, I don't know what it is right now. They seem to be gaining a net 2 or 3 airplanes a year, so upgrade is based on growth and attrition. That said, upgrade is also merit/performance based, not seniority. You will need ATP minimums, and a few letters of recommendation from captains you have flown with.

SkylaneRG 10-07-2013 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by hubbs (Post 1497950)
It is not useless and can, indeed, be logged. Typically, FOs will fly the empty Part 91 legs, and log 61.51 PIC. Live legs, the SIC is required by 135 or 91K and thus SIC is logged.

Depending on your career goals, there are definitely better stepping stone jobs out there, but all in all it is a decent company.

Back in 2011-2012 upgrade was around a year, I don't know what it is right now. They seem to be gaining a net 2 or 3 airplanes a year, so upgrade is based on growth and attrition. That said, upgrade is also merit/performance based, not seniority. You will need ATP minimums, and a few letters of recommendation from captains you have flown with.

Thank you! Any other tips you could suggest for the interview or even for a new-hire?

NHAV8R 10-08-2013 02:20 AM

I was at Planesense for over 5 years, and I had a great experience there. I can't give any good interview advice, though, cause I'm sure they process has changed since I went through.

smugglersblues 10-08-2013 10:33 AM

Anyone called yet for the Jan 2014 class ?

JohnnyG 10-08-2013 10:28 PM

I've received several emails telling me my application was being reviewed and if I met mins, I'd be called in. This has been going on for months, and I haven't had any actual action. I've heard nothing but great things about planesense, but I don't think they have any interest in me. We'll see.

feltf4 10-09-2013 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by JohnnyG (Post 1498669)
I've received several emails telling me my application was being reviewed and if I met mins, I'd be called in. This has been going on for months, and I haven't had any actual action. I've heard nothing but great things about planesense, but I don't think they have any interest in me. We'll see.

I think you have answered your own question... "met the mins".. They have made it clear that they don't want to hire people looking to get there time in and go to a regional. Not saying this is what you are going to do but I know they are strict on the requirements.

JohnnyG 10-09-2013 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 1498852)
I think you have answered your own question... "met the mins".. They have made it clear that they don't want to hire people looking to get there time in and go to a regional. Not saying this is what you are going to do but I know they are strict on the requirements.

I'm not sure how they can tell that by my resume, but I'm sure they have guys with enough industry experience they take educated guesses as to where everyone will end up.

I exceed the mins, and wouldn't go here in hopes of going to a regional later. I meet the mins for all regionals as well.

If they don't want me, that's fine. There's a long line of places I don't have competitive hours for. I am wondering if someone who works at planesense could outline the experience that will get you a shot at interviewing here.

BeechedJet 10-09-2013 04:04 PM

I had two of my friends interview their and not get the job. Both pilots had plenty of PIC time in Caravans, one had 121 time. According to them, Planesense really wanted to see local pilots get the job.

feltf4 10-09-2013 04:30 PM

Why don't you tell me your experience and ill help you..

JohnnyG 10-09-2013 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 1499116)
Why don't you tell me your experience and ill help you..

2000 hours, ATP, no 121 or 135. I'm a planesense and PC-12 fan.

SkylaneRG 10-09-2013 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by BeechedJet (Post 1499092)
I had two of my friends interview their and not get the job. Both pilots had plenty of PIC time in Caravans, one had 121 time. According to them, Planesense really wanted to see local pilots get the job.

My friend really wants to relocate to the east coast, and told them that. What do you think his chances are? He's fine with Atlanta, too.

BeechedJet 10-10-2013 12:53 PM

No idea I never worked for this company, nor interviewed there.

feltf4 10-10-2013 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by JohnnyG (Post 1499271)
2000 hours, ATP, no 121 or 135. I'm a planesense and PC-12 fan.

Where do you live? Do you live within 100 miles of the two base, PSM or PDK?

JohnnyG 10-10-2013 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 1499681)
Where do you live? Do you live within 100 miles of the two base, PSM or PDK?


Nope! I'd have to move. If they are giving priority to local pilots it makes sense. It seems like none of the regionals or big 135s are local to the middle West Coast.

jpso 10-12-2013 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by SkylaneRG (Post 1499288)
My friend really wants to relocate to the east coast, and told them that. What do you think his chances are? He's fine with Atlanta, too.

It's hard to say what their chances are. PlaneSense is looking for local (100mi of PSM/PDK) Pilots. They're looking for guys with good instrument experience and work ethic. Also, someone who is outgoing/pleasurable to be around since, we're trapped together for 8 days! It's not just as simple as a candidate meeting the minimum flight time requirements, acing the tech/hr interview and flying a rock solid precision approach in the sim.

jpso 10-12-2013 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by JohnnyG (Post 1498669)
I've received several emails telling me my application was being reviewed and if I met mins, I'd be called in. This has been going on for months, and I haven't had any actual action. I've heard nothing but great things about planesense, but I don't think they have any interest in me. We'll see.

As far as I know, we haven't held a new hire class for a few months and won't be for another few months as well.

palgia841 10-13-2013 05:45 AM

Quick questions to folks who currently fly here:

What's your typical day like? How many legs vs. waiting? revenue vs. empty legs?

Also, how does the company manage the flow of pilots vs. airplanes during the 8 on days? In other words, do you always pick up a plane at PDK or PSM on day 1 and stay with it the whole 8 days until you drop it off at domicile? Or does the company fly you commercial to pick up planes almost every other day like a NetJets would? Just trying to imagine what these 8 days would be like.

Thanks in advance for your input. Sounds like a great place to work.

feltf4 10-13-2013 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by palgia841 (Post 1501062)
Quick questions to folks who currently fly here:

What's your typical day like? How many legs vs. waiting? revenue vs. empty legs?

Also, how does the company manage the flow of pilots vs. airplanes during the 8 on days? In other words, do you always pick up a plane at PDK or PSM on day 1 and stay with it the whole 8 days until you drop it off at domicile? Or does the company fly you commercial to pick up planes almost every other day like a NetJets would? Just trying to imagine what these 8 days would be like.

Thanks in advance for your input. Sounds like a great place to work.

The best way I can put it is; no months/weeks/days are the same. Generally pick up a plane and keep it for 8 days, unless needed for maintenance. You might fly to pick up an airplane, you may drive a crew car or rental to pick up an airplane. There is not a whole lot of mid cycle airline flying going on, generally on day 1; but it does happen.

The days are long there not doubt about it. I'm generally pleased with a 10 hour day. But it's generally longer than that. Flying wise you might do 2 hours or you might do 10 hours. There is a lot of airport standby these days. As far as revenue vs. not, its 91k. So pretty much every other leg is a repo.

Other than that. It's by far the easiest job in this career I think. It pays the bills. But like any other job its comes with its baggage. PM if you want more info.

jpso 10-13-2013 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by palgia841 (Post 1501062)
Quick questions to folks who currently fly here:

What's your typical day like? How many legs vs. waiting? revenue vs. empty legs?

Also, how does the company manage the flow of pilots vs. airplanes during the 8 on days? In other words, do you always pick up a plane at PDK or PSM on day 1 and stay with it the whole 8 days until you drop it off at domicile? Or does the company fly you commercial to pick up planes almost every other day like a NetJets would? Just trying to imagine what these 8 days would be like.

Thanks in advance for your input. Sounds like a great place to work.

feltf4 summarized it pretty well.

How many legs you fly will depend entirely on what day you're on, how many hours are left on your plane and where you are in the US at the time. Generally speaking, you should pick up an airplane on day 1 and be paired with someone on your cycle and fly for 8 days. However, this week I'm paired with someone who started 3 days after me and is not from my base. We're in the southern part of the US and only have a couple legs today. Usually when the company doesn't have any trips for us or, we're not really busy and haven't had a very busy day; we will sit standby for a few hours burning off time. To answer your last question, I've airlined to or from work 4 times in the last month.

Just imagine being called into work at 5am on day 1, working 10-13hours each day and coming home on day 8 at 9pm or later. The company has you from 4am on day 1 to 4am on day 8. Toss in what feltf4 discussed regarding airlining, taking a bus, crew car, rental car, MARTA train or whatever else operations can think of to get you to an aircraft.

withthatsaid182 11-07-2013 07:36 AM

The worst days are 1 and 8. Getting to and from and getting out on the road is the worst. Once out it isn't too bad. Some guys get hammered while another crew has it easy. All depends on where you are and what the schedule demands.

New hire classes start up in January. As long as you have instrument skills you will be fine. Some guys get through the interview and training only to fall apart on the road flying wise. Don't do that. It's bad. Some guys have come from VFR only backgrounds or not a lot of recent experience and it does not bode well. Just like anywhere you fly IFR. People tend to downplay the two pilot single engine turboprop job...you work just as hard as the Boeing in front of you and the learjet behind you....the only difference is nobody values your experience. ;)

Lurie389 11-11-2013 12:11 PM

Any ideas as to when the "Spring 2014" class date(s) are? I threw my name in the hat a couple weeks ago and mentioned in the email that I am more than willing to relocate, and an HR person basically said get back to us when you have 1200TT (of which I'm about 25 hours short). No tentative offers to interview, nothing of the sort. I'm very interested in potentially working for them, but it just seems like they're very turned off to the idea of someone coming in from outside 100 miles from the two aforementioned bases, even if there's a willingness to relocate.

jpso 12-03-2013 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Lurie389 (Post 1517741)
Any ideas as to when the "Spring 2014" class date(s) are? I threw my name in the hat a couple weeks ago and mentioned in the email that I am more than willing to relocate, and an HR person basically said get back to us when you have 1200TT (of which I'm about 25 hours short). No tentative offers to interview, nothing of the sort. I'm very interested in potentially working for them, but it just seems like they're very turned off to the idea of someone coming in from outside 100 miles from the two aforementioned bases, even if there's a willingness to relocate.

Last I heard which was directly from the DO; classes would be held Jan, Feb, March 2014. Apparently PSM or PDK didn't matter but you've got to be in that area or have a good reference from someone working here to get yourself noticed.

Lurie389 12-04-2013 09:10 AM

I'm over minimums now and would love the opportunity to interview! I guess I just find it hard to believe that they can fill all their classes with interested candidates from within 100nm of both bases without having to look elsewhere at all.


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