Any XOJET'ers on the board?
01-15-2008 | 09:53 AM
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Do they pay your medical insurance 100%? Yes, for the employee. We pay about 10% for the family
do you work more than 182 days per year? yes, 205. But I have not been on the road for an entire rotation in months. Got home for 2 nights in the middle of the last rotation, watched Sunday football from the comfort of my own couch.
How's the union? Don't have one. Is that a bad thing if it's not needed?
How much is year 1 FO pay? 50K. How long to upgrade at NJA? Less than a year here.
Can you live anywhere and base at home airport? Yes.
I'm not trying to take anything away from NetJets. But to say it's the only place to go is a subjective statement. Does NetJets have a business model that results in 18% deadheads? Does NetJets have a model that can 'turn-off' outside charter to minimize the need to sell off flights to outside vendors during the peak travel season. Does NetJets have the ability to market itself to customers outside its own client/owner base in order to fill that repo flight to Hawaii?
If yes, then I stand corrected. If not, it's time to admit that there is a new player in town.
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Do they have a fatigue clause? We don't have a contract, so no we don't. But we get 12 hours of rest after 2 consecutive duty days exceeding 12 hours. We also get 12 hours of rest after a red eye.
Do they get you crew meals? (or a choice of meals?) They sure do! Those Rudy's lemon bars are great. They also pay for all of our meals on the road. It's a tough call between the Kung Pao Chicken or Double Pan Fried Noodles at PF Changs...maybe I'll get both!
Hows the training? Single-day 6 month recurrent at Simuflight and progressive check on the 12 month recurrent.
Are you paid during training? We sure are!
Can you say NO, I'm not going, it's not safe? We sure can. I just did it last week. Chief Pilot was 100% supportive of my decision.
All that without a union!!!
do you work more than 182 days per year? yes, 205. But I have not been on the road for an entire rotation in months. Got home for 2 nights in the middle of the last rotation, watched Sunday football from the comfort of my own couch.
How's the union? Don't have one. Is that a bad thing if it's not needed?
How much is year 1 FO pay? 50K. How long to upgrade at NJA? Less than a year here.
Can you live anywhere and base at home airport? Yes.
I'm not trying to take anything away from NetJets. But to say it's the only place to go is a subjective statement. Does NetJets have a business model that results in 18% deadheads? Does NetJets have a model that can 'turn-off' outside charter to minimize the need to sell off flights to outside vendors during the peak travel season. Does NetJets have the ability to market itself to customers outside its own client/owner base in order to fill that repo flight to Hawaii?
If yes, then I stand corrected. If not, it's time to admit that there is a new player in town.
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#28
Do they have a fatigue clause? We don't have a contract, so no we don't. But we get 12 hours of rest after 2 consecutive duty days exceeding 12 hours. We also get 12 hours of rest after a red eye.
Do they get you crew meals? (or a choice of meals?) They sure do! Those Rudy's lemon bars are great. They also pay for all of our meals on the road. It's a tough call between the Kung Pao Chicken or Double Pan Fried Noodles at PF Changs...maybe I'll get both!
Hows the training? Single-day 6 month recurrent at Simuflight and progressive check on the 12 month recurrent.
Are you paid during training? We sure are!
Can you say NO, I'm not going, it's not safe? We sure can. I just did it last week. Chief Pilot was 100% supportive of my decision.
All that without a union!!!
01-15-2008 | 10:10 AM
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No training contract.
Pretty sure unless you live at a MX base, your gone the whole rotation.
Insurance question was answered, pillot 100%, family 10%
p1ayn - I think they don't like hiring airline guys, but don't quote me. Just heard it through the grapevine. I would still try!
Pretty sure unless you live at a MX base, your gone the whole rotation.
Insurance question was answered, pillot 100%, family 10%
p1ayn - I think they don't like hiring airline guys, but don't quote me. Just heard it through the grapevine. I would still try!
01-15-2008 | 11:04 AM
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A guy from one of the fracs. wrote this last year, "we got what NJ got, all without a union". If NJ didn't have a union, would you be making what you make right now? probably not....we at NJ wouldn't either.
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01-15-2008 | 11:05 AM
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skysharke - Are you t-bone from FI?
No...But that thread was a post of t-bones from flight info as the header said.
I don't work there..Just thought it would answer a few questions too those seeking employment. I think they may be a good option as far as jobs go in aviation. From the guys I've talked too they like it there but there is always some room for improvement.
No...But that thread was a post of t-bones from flight info as the header said.
I don't work there..Just thought it would answer a few questions too those seeking employment. I think they may be a good option as far as jobs go in aviation. From the guys I've talked too they like it there but there is always some room for improvement.
01-15-2008 | 05:29 PM
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No training contract.
Pretty sure unless you live at a MX base, your gone the whole rotation.
Insurance question was answered, pillot 100%, family 10%
p1ayn - I think they don't like hiring airline guys, but don't quote me. Just heard it through the grapevine. I would still try!
Pretty sure unless you live at a MX base, your gone the whole rotation.
Insurance question was answered, pillot 100%, family 10%
p1ayn - I think they don't like hiring airline guys, but don't quote me. Just heard it through the grapevine. I would still try!
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