Originally Posted by b1rdman (Post 445524)

Did the no come in the form of an email or USPS?

Originally Posted by MiserDD (Post 446593)

Any idea where you may have error in the interview?

What’s your background?

Originally Posted by Namreg (Post 450239)

Anyone have anything new to add? Still waiting for some kind of reply. Did the phone interview on June 26th and just wondering where we are as far as notifications? As for me, I guess I'm happy I have not heard anything yet? I don't know? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by FlightPhoenix (Post 445242)

I just updated my app. online with their new system and less than an hour I received this e-mail. I have 8000+ total 4500+ PIC 3000+ jet. I don't know what they are looking for; however, if they are cleaning the slate and revamping their application system, maybe they are just sending everyone the same letter. Has any one received a positive e-mail after applying online?


Thank you for your interest in the position of Pilot. We are honored that you consider our company the type of organization that would provide you with an exciting and challenging career opportunity. At NetJets Aviation, Inc. we are proud of our ability to align individual qualifications with the requirements of our positions.



At this time, we have decided to pursue candidates whose background and experience is better matched with our current openings. We invite you to continue to visit our web site at NetJets Global Landing to further explore career opportunities that may be of interest to you.



Again, thank you for your interest in NetJets. We wish you the best of success in your career endeavors.



Sincerely,



NetJets Crew Recruitment, Talent Acquisition

Originally Posted by Flex81 (Post 451921)

Is it just me, or does anyone else think this email is totally unnecessary and unprofessional?

Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 446108)

Since it's a new week, has anyone else gotten a positive e-mail from their phone interview?

Originally Posted by Flex81 (Post 451921)

Is it just me, or does anyone else think this email is totally unnecessary and unprofessional? Why can't they just leave out the part of "you are not what we are looking for" and instead just say "we will be reviewing your application". This guy has over 8000 hours and he is not qualified to fly an encore?! Give me a F'N break. At least they invite you to visit their website, where you can apply for a secretary job.

Originally Posted by Blueridger (Post 453307)

I know it's frustrating guys but the interview isn't about finding out who's most qualified to fly an airplane (I think most of us have figured that part out by now); it's about who can best represent the company and provide a superior service to our customers while also demonstrating excellent airmanship and CRM skills.
All of us are qualified to fly an Encore, just as much as all of us can fly a 747- we're trained specifically for one or the other. It's the big picture you need to look at and paint yourself in the best light for the mission we do here. Good luck and don't let the letter get your hopes down.

Originally Posted by Blueridger (Post 453307)

I know it's frustrating guys but the interview isn't about finding out who's most qualified to fly an airplane (I think most of us have figured that part out by now); it's about who can best represent the company and provide a superior service to our customers while also demonstrating excellent airmanship and CRM skills.
All of us are qualified to fly an Encore, just as much as all of us can fly a 747- we're trained specifically for one or the other. It's the big picture you need to look at and paint yourself in the best light for the mission we do here. Good luck and don't let the letter get your hopes down.

Originally Posted by arjmjj (Post 453640)

How about the lack of posts from the extremely qualified pilots that got the job. I'm sure they take exception to the fact that you've decided their inexperienced based on a couple of posts on this forum.

Originally Posted by flyguy37 (Post 453683)

It is so funny. Almost every person is actually putting in their posts why they did not get hired.

"I have XXXXX hours and XXX type ratings and XXX Turbine PIC and XXXX jet"

Who doesn't???????? The average newhire at NJ has a lot of experience but they did something either in the application stage or in the interview process that distinguished themselves from the rest.

So you ask a pilot to describe themselves and they immediately resort to hours, types, jet, and operating environment. This is a job where flying is 20 percent of the deal. We as pilots are an egotistical bunch. I remember in my NJ interview there were four guys who actually had the nerve to come in the room and say aloud to the other interviewees they "nailed" it and guess what? Not one of them is currently employed at NJ.

Ok now let the attacks begin.........

Originally Posted by 757upspilot (Post 453700)

Ok, now I understand , its not really a pilots job. Not an attack just an understanding that what I thought was a fliing job really isn't.
looks like a reasonable place to work based on this info

Originally Posted by flyguy37 (Post 453703)

Sounds about right. Not a "fliing" job at all. Attention to detail is always important in the application and interview process. Flying... not so important.

Originally Posted by 757upspilot (Post 453783)

Glad I am not in a position to have to apply anywhere.:)

Originally Posted by flyguy37 (Post 453788)

Just begs the question why are you in the fractional forums??

Originally Posted by 757upspilot (Post 453783)

Glad I am not in a position to have to apply anywhere.:)

Originally Posted by 757upspilot (Post 453796)

I like to keep up with whats going on outside of my area. Gives me an idea where the next batch of people might come from. The fractional business is new compared to most of what are called airlines. Its interesting to see how far it will grow before it becomes large enough to attract the government, cut throat competition, a private equity outfit thats going to take it apart or get sold off .

Originally Posted by 757upspilot (Post 453796)

I like to keep up with whats going on outside of my area. Gives me an idea where the next batch of people might come from. The fractional business is new compared to most of what are called airlines. Its interesting to see how far it will grow before it becomes large enough to attract the government, cut throat competition, a private equity outfit thats going to take it apart or get sold off.

Originally Posted by 757upspilot (Post 453796)

...to see how far it will grow before it becomes large enough to attract the government.

Originally Posted by 757upspilot (Post 453796)

...cut throat competition?

Originally Posted by 757upspilot (Post 453796)

...a private equity outfit thats going to take it apart or get sold off.

Originally Posted by 757upspilot (Post 453796)

The fractional business is new compared to most of what are called airlines.

Originally Posted by NJA Capt (Post 453855)

I'd say you're a few years behind.

Let me catch you up:



The FAA got involved in 1999.
In October 1999, the FAA convened the Fractional Ownership Aviation Rulemaking Committee (FOARC), consisting of twenty-seven representatives of a cross section of the business aviation and on-demand charter industries, foreign civil aviation authorities, the DOT and the FAA. Aviation Advisor Jul 18 01


Several frac providers have already tried low fee programs. As a matter of fact, Flight Options began as a "used plane" low cost alternative to NetJets.


Once again...already happened. OPTS was sold to HIG Capital in 2007.
Flight Options was acquired in November 2007 by H.I.G. Capital, LLC, a leading global private equity firm with more than $4 billion of equity capital under management. H.I.G. specializes in acquiring companies with great growth potential and helping them achieve their goals. H.I.G. support and investment will allow Flight Options to build on its success as the most innovative company in private aviation.
Flight Options: Private aircraft programs on a higher plane: Programs: FAQs
Flight Options cuts nearly 200 jobs, including 75 pilots - Cleveland Business News ? The Latest Breaking News, Earnings Reports and Stories from The Plain Dealer


NetJets original company (EJA) was founded in 1964. NetJets program was founded in 1986. Two years before UPS received its Air Carrier Certificate (1988). NJA currently operates over 500 more a/c that UPS.

Originally Posted by flyguy37 (Post 453840)

I understand that. I visit the Cargo forum from time to time and you UPS folks speak a totally different lingo.

Originally Posted by 757upspilot (Post 453868)

The government attention is more along the lines of the TSA and Homeland security.

You aren't big enough to attract the cutthroat competition, when you are it will limit your growth.

UPS was moving airfreight in the 30's

500 more a/c, that depends on what you call an a/c.

Your total fleet value and gross and net revenue last year?

Originally Posted by arjmjj (Post 453927)

Here's another one for you 757. NetJets parent company is Berkshire Hathaway. 2007 Revenue: $118.2 billion, 2006 Revenue: $98.5 billion. A market cap of $180.6 billion. As far as NetJets' companies: Executive Jet Management, NetJets Aviation, NetJets International, NetJets Large Aircraft, NetJets Europe and NetJets Middle East. So yeah we are just getting our feet wet, wish us luck.