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Old 09-23-2008, 08:54 PM
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Sorry about the bad news...

Did they mention in the interview that your Hawker 400 type helped you get the initial call? I am getting ready to start that type training (T-1) but will be in the same boat as you for reserve purposes...
They didn't say but I know having 1000+ PIC in their AC helped. Keep in mind their PIC requirement is low while their total time is higher for a mil guy. Our time is actual flight time not push back or hobbs or eng running. I've had many nights of 5+ nvg trainers backing AC with no flight time logged. This is why I was pushed so quickly. They know what mil guys do and would like to have them, but they don't want any strings attached. Now I can claim speculation etc. Just understand in an overflowing market you can take the ideal. In todays market I would say the T-1 will get you hired if you look like you will be job free and dedicated to the company. I have a guy in my unit that flew for them in 2005 and left for FedEx. All positive experience!! My interview was positive as well. However, don't give them a reason to pick the next guy because you have a reserve job. My mistake...oops! I wouldn't change my actions because I believe it was the right thing to do. I want a company that wants honest people. I can run a "what if" until the cows come home but the bottom line is that the industry is BS now, and if the pay/hiring doesn't change I will rent a plane and fly myself with current compensation because I can't see why anyone would work for what they are offering. I love flying, but I am considering a non-flying job that pays 100,000+ and doing my flying reserve job on the side to scratch the itch. Take a look at regional pay and ask yourself if it is safe to fly that next connection I kid, they do have a desire to live...

As a side note: if you want to fly for NJ have a way to take care of your family for awhile... it could be a long wait. 4 years will change everything when 60/65 blows over.
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:06 AM
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My experience...

I am a min time mil guy. I got the notification for a phone interview 4 weeks after submitting my app. Then I got the notification for a CMH interview 4 weeks after that. The interview went well but I got a no thanks ..probably due to my reserve job. They can pick and choose right now so I'm not surprised. Anyway, to the meat of the topic, my classmates that are still waiting have been told that they are still reviewing their status and that their will be no more training this year. So if you want to fly for NJ make sure you have a way to put food on the table because it will be a LOOONG wait.

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Out of curiosity, how much flight time did you have?

Total, Multi, PIC
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:06 AM
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~2530 mil all multi with 1100 PIC in Beech/Hawker 400. Sorry if one of my previous posts was dripping with sarcasm. I do think that NJ would be a great company to work for they are just very backed up for training. My sim partner was a 121 guy with 15,000+ hours and they didn't want him either. Good Luck! It's like winning the lottery just to get to the interview.

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Old 09-26-2008, 05:30 AM
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NetJets seems like a great company but their "talent acquisition team" seems to be in a meltdown right now. I'm going to let the dust settle then take another look after a couple months.
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Originally Posted by laserman2431 View Post
NetJets seems like a great company but their "talent acquisition team" seems to be in a meltdown right now. I'm going to let the dust settle then take another look after a couple months.
Makes me wonder if they were ready/equipped to handle the resume load. One day everybody is hiring, then the price of oil spikes, and the economy struggles, and throw the whole thing off balance. The cargo companies stop hiring, majors furlough, the smaller fractionals where people most want to go in LIEU of NetJets ( CS, FX) can only accomodate so many people, so what happens, Netjets, along with Southwest become the most popular kids in town. A wave of resumes/apps follow...

One more thing, we have 50 Hawker 4000s on order, we were suppose to start receiving those things in 2005 or something like that. Its hard for them to plan things out when an aircraft is coming, then it isn't, then it is, and so on.

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One more thing, we have 50 Hawker 4000s on order, we were suppose to start receiving those things in 2005 or something like that. Its hard for them to plan things out when an aircraft is coming, then it isn't, then it is, and so on.
Any word on when the Hawker's will start delivery? I heard that a few guys are scheduled for initial, but there seems to be no firm info on the planes arriving. Hopefully soon as more planes means more pilots.
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Old 09-27-2008, 02:57 AM
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Any word on when the Hawker's will start delivery? I heard that a few guys are scheduled for initial, but there seems to be no firm info on the planes arriving. Hopefully soon as more planes means more pilots.
Someone said we have 1 on property now, but I've never seen it. I went through all the hot spots last week, CMH, TEB, HPN, PBI, VNY, did not see it parked anywhere....I don't think N15QS is ours

Photos: Raytheon 4000 Hawker 4000 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

But I know one thing, Santulli must be getting a heck of a deal, he already had a great deal, he buys airplanes in bunches to score deals. When a manufacturer is late on a delivery, I understand they're liable, and they must compensate. I wonder what Beechcraft's "late penalty fee" looks like???

too bad , nice bird
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Someone said we have 1 on property now, but I've never seen it. I went through all the hot spots last week, CMH, TEB, HPN, PBI, VNY, did not see it parked anywhere....I don't think N15QS is ours.
It isn't; that tail number is registered to Hawker Beechcraft Corp.

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NJA Airplanes on Certificate
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Net Jets guys are on the inside...is this economic uncertainty having any affect on NJA or other fracs?
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I thought this was funny. This is the actual email they sent me a couple of days ago, and just in case you're skimming and not paying attention... they misspelled Application

NetJets Applicatoin


--Dear Xxxxx,

Thank you for your interest in the position of Pilot. We are honored that you consider our company the type of organization that would provide you with an exciting and challenging career opportunity. At NetJets Aviation, Inc. we are proud of our ability to align individual qualifications with the requirements of our positions.

At this time, we have decided to pursue candidates whose background and experience is better matched with our current openings. We invite you to continue to visit our web site at NetJets Global Landing to further explore career opportunities that may be of interest to you.

Again, thank you for your interest in NetJets. We wish you the best of success in your career endeavors.

Sincerely,

NetJets Crew Recruitment, Talent Acquisition--

I'm not bitter or anything, I understand the market is uber-saturated and this was a Hail Mary, maybe I'll try again in a few years... They may want to have someone proof read their blanket email to rejected candidates though as it seems tacky to misspell 'Applicatoin' in the subject of their letter.

On the bright side I got a job in a Gulfstream 200 that I'm very excited about and feel very grateful to be able to get a job in this market. (My last employer went Ch. 7 two months ago).

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