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Old 11-15-2008, 05:47 AM
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What are you talking about? What signs?

It appears to me that you are being purposefully vague and misleading.
Hey Mr XOpilot,

If you haven't heard, XO has lay ed off 12 admin staff. According to your interview personnel, XO is not profitable at this time. If you watch the news you will here that our economy is in recession and forecast to go into a deep recession and possible depression. (THESE SIGNS)
I think its great that you are drinking the company Kool aid, nothing wrong that, and I think its good for morale. However, if you think XO will be Immune to the state of this economy you have overdosed on the kool-aid. Do i think XO will fail, absolutely not, But Iam a realist and believe that XO will have to adjust its aggressive growth plan to be a strong survivor. ( the reason for Siegel)
I wouldn't want to be a new hire at the bottom of seniority list nor the low man on the merit list for that matter, especially if I have a family to support.

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sometimes a low man on the senority list is better than no job at all. most of the people inquring about a job with an airline currently do not have one therefore it is worth the risk to them. good to hear all the possibilities though before you make the decision. hopefully this economy will turn around soon.
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Originally Posted by jetjockee View Post
Hey Mr XOpilot,

If you haven't heard, XO has lay ed off 12 admin staff. According to your interview personnel, XO is not profitable at this time. If you watch the news you will here that our economy is in recession and forecast to go into a deep recession and possible depression. (THESE SIGNS)
I think its great that you are drinking the company Kool aid, nothing wrong that, and I think its good for morale. However, if you think XO will be Immune to the state of this economy you have overdosed on the kool-aid. Do i think XO will fail, absolutely not, But Iam a realist and believe that XO will have to adjust its aggressive growth plan to be a strong survivor. ( the reason for Siegel)
I wouldn't want to be a new hire at the bottom of seniority list nor the low man on the merit list for that matter, especially if I have a family to support.
Mr Jetjockee,

First, XOJET was never supposed to be profitable yet. The business plan is to build infrastructure so we can scale into a large company. Also, there were NO Layoffs! 12 unnecessary positions were eliminated and won't ever be replaced. None of them had anything to do with flight operations.

The poor economy is a challenge to everyone. I don't think XOJET is immune, but the company is in far better shape than many due to it's deep pockets and access to serious credit in a very tight market.

While making a move to a new company is never without risk, I think there are few other companies that offer the stability XOJET does due to our continued growth and financial position. You are certainly entitled to your opinion though.
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Mr Jetjockee,

First, XOJET was never supposed to be profitable yet. The business plan is to build infrastructure so we can scale into a large company. Also, there were NO Layoffs! 12 unnecessary positions were eliminated and won't ever be replaced. None of them had anything to do with flight operations.

The poor economy is a challenge to everyone. I don't think XOJET is immune, but the company is in far better shape than many due to it's deep pockets and access to serious credit in a very tight market.

While making a move to a new company is never without risk, I think there are few other companies that offer the stability XOJET does due to our continued growth and financial position. You are certainly entitled to your opinion though.
I admire your attitude for the success of XO! I am not here to question the steadfast nature of XO's growth model but simply to bring up some important points to thought for interested parties. I also think XO would be a great opportunity for someone who is unemployed, Howerver IMHO I would not leave a stable job for an XO opportunity at this point in time.

Regarding the eliminations of personnel, Could you tell us exactly what positions were eliminated?
I'm also curious to hear your opinion on how XO is going to support its aggressive growth model during a deep recession?
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Originally Posted by jetjockee View Post
I also think XO would be a great opportunity for someone who is unemployed, Howerver IMHO I would not leave a stable job for an XO opportunity at this point in time.

Regarding the eliminations of personnel, Could you tell us exactly what positions were eliminated?
I'm also curious to hear your opinion on how XO is going to support its aggressive growth model during a deep recession?

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you just interview with XO back in October? You started this post with the gouge about the interview. And if they would've offered you the job would you have accepted it?
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Originally Posted by Sioux115 View Post
Wow...I don't know what it is, but it seems like each time I ask questions about XOJET I get my head bitten off. Well anyways, I guess I got my answer. Thanks for all the kind words.
Hey man, I don't even think that guy works for XO... It helps a lot to have a rec right now. I think they have only interviewed 1 or 2 people without a rec. Not just 121 guys that are waiting...
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Old 11-15-2008, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hoover View Post
sometimes a low man on the senority list is better than no job at all. most of the people inquring about a job with an airline currently do not have one therefore it is worth the risk to them. good to hear all the possibilities though before you make the decision. hopefully this economy will turn around soon.
I am the low man on the totem pole, literally, and I'm not worried about my job at all! It is definantley worth any risks you think there are...
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Originally Posted by toolboX View Post
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you just interview with XO back in October? You started this post with the gouge about the interview. And if they would've offered you the job would you have accepted it?
Haha, PRICELESS!!! Thanks toolbox, I needed that.
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Originally Posted by toolboX View Post
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you just interview with XO back in October? You started this post with the gouge about the interview. And if they would've offered you the job would you have accepted it?
Yes you are right, I did interview in October, however I marketed myself as a DEC, and if I would of recieved a DEC offer with a July economy I might of accepted the position.
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November issue. B&CA. pg. 18

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