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Old 11-17-2008, 05:31 AM
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November issue. B&CA. pg. 18

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Sorry, unabale to find it? Any chance u could post a address.
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Old 11-18-2008, 08:29 AM
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Thanks Falcon, Im sure all of us wannabe's appreciate your updates.

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It helps a lot to have a rec right now. I think they have only interviewed 1 or 2 people without a rec.
Man, I knew I should have talked to that chick we flew to Spokane that had the XO fleece on.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:03 AM
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Funny to hear about the recommendations gaining preference at XOJet. Last year I was specifically told that they avoid coat-tail hiring.

That being said, I do know of a great candidate that was sabatoged by an existing XOJet pilot due to past personality differences. You can guess which one had the personality issue :-)

An email was sent to existing XOJet pilots saying something like, "these are the candidates we are considering... so please let us know if you have knowledge of them or want to comment on their potential employment with us"

On a different note, I wonder if XOJet still has a "no vacation" policy. I like the company, however.
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:52 AM
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Funny to hear about the recommendations gaining preference at XOJet. Last year I was specifically told that they avoid coat-tail hiring.

That being said, I do know of a great candidate that was sabatoged by an existing XOJet pilot due to past personality differences. You can guess which one had the personality issue :-)

An email was sent to existing XOJet pilots saying something like, "these are the candidates we are considering... so please let us know if you have knowledge of them or want to comment on their potential employment with us"

On a different note, I wonder if XOJet still has a "no vacation" policy. I like the company, however.
Recommendations have always been very important at XOJET. You got some bad information on that one.

Sorry your buddy didn't get hired, but we like having the opportunity to safeguard our pilot group. It's a very good thing.

1 week (8 days) of vacation after 1 year, two weeks (16 days) after 5 years. I just put my bid in last week.
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Old 11-18-2008, 12:47 PM
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Yes, it is good to "safeguard" your pilot group. Helps you avoid hiring even more people who have taxied twins off the taxiway into the mud, or landing Falcons off the end of a runways, or bring their personal problems to work with them. :-)

XOJet has no better pilot group than any other fractional. There are many excellent candidates out there that are at a disadvantage just because some XOJet pilot (with undisclosed or shady past experiences) does not recommend them.

Good to hear about the new vacation policy. Again, I like the company but dislike the common practice of internal recs on the "front-end" of determining interviews. It should really only be disclosed, or used after phone and in-person interviews take place. "of the candidates we interviewed, here are the ones that came from internal recs."

your thoughts?
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This is the only thing that bugs me about XO and internal recs: they don't have that many pilots. Where are these guys? XO is a place that I'd love to work and a place were I feel like I could have the right quality of life to retire there.

I just don't know any XO pilots and I don't know where I could meet one. I'd fly all across the country to find them if I had to.

I'd go through a personal interview with any one of them if i needed to, but I'm applying anyway and we'll see what happens.
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Originally Posted by FlyinFoSheezy View Post
Yes, it is good to "safeguard" your pilot group. Helps you avoid hiring even more people who have taxied twins off the taxiway into the mud, or landing Falcons off the end of a runways, or bring their personal problems to work with them. :-)

XOJet has no better pilot group than any other fractional. There are many excellent candidates out there that are at a disadvantage just because some XOJet pilot (with undisclosed or shady past experiences) does not recommend them.

Good to hear about the new vacation policy. Again, I like the company but dislike the common practice of internal recs on the "front-end" of determining interviews. It should really only be disclosed, or used after phone and in-person interviews take place. "of the candidates we interviewed, here are the ones that came from internal recs."

your thoughts?
Did your friend get an interview?
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I've been updating for the past nine months very regularly, and have been in contact with Dave Cox (who is a friend of a friend). Other than that I don't know if I know any current employees. I've got over 6000 hrs. turbojet PIC with both domestic and international ops. My experience includes 135/121/91/91K and military flying with strong customer service involvement. I've been a Check Airman under all of the above Parts.

Presently, I'm a Challenger 300 Instructor and can't get an interview. I want XOJET to be my last aviation company, but that's not possible if you can't get the initial invitation.

The current economy stinks, and I count myself fortunate to be employed,
but I want to fly for this operation. It is extremely frustrating.
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Old 11-18-2008, 04:06 PM
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My friend was given an initial phone interview, then the email went out. He was given a second phone interview and the only hangup was the internal "negative recommendation" by one pilot at XO.

I know my friend has no hard feelings regarding the process... just my personal opinion about pilots and their egos who make an effort to stop a fellow pilot's employment opportunity. Not cool.

I would totally understand if the candidate was an unsafe pilot, or a jerk, but this was not the case.

Enough venting :-) In the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter.

Like every company XOJet has a few pilots who are not the best. Let's keep this in mind when putting weight in their recommendations... and negative recommendations for that matter.

Okay, that's enough from my side. Again, XO is a great company. Too bad it was not mentioned among other fractionals in the latest issue of Private Air Private Air & Private AirMart | The Private Air Guide to Fractionals and Jet Cards

I mean, even OurPlane got coverage with 16 aircraft. What a shame.
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You would be surprised how many companies use this method of weeding out "bad apples". We do get emails saying who they are going to interview. It is hard to believe that a guy didn't get an interview from 1 XO pilot saying no. The guy that said no must be high up or have some real bad stories about the guy. It is a shame for your buddy. He should really contact the XO pilot to talk about the issue, if he knows who it is, then maybe they can resolve the issue like men.

Hey Sligo, I wouldn't post peoples names on public forums, at least not HIS full name. If your buddy is good friends with Dave, then you will get a call for an interview...
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