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Time2Fly 02-14-2009 04:56 AM

A Legacy is a private/corp verison of a 135

emb145captain 02-14-2009 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by cgtpilot (Post 559126)
What's a "Legacy ERJ" ??? Can't figure it out.

The Legacy is the bizjet version of the ERJ135/145.

cgtpilot 02-14-2009 10:31 AM

Gotcha...if your FOM or whatever you use allows it Flaps 22 approaches/landings are much nicer. Its a poor man's version of having slats!

emb145captain 02-14-2009 12:05 PM

I think I am going to stick with 45 landings seeing as I prefer the sight picture (reduced pitch attitude), lower speed, less brake wear.

I have never noticed a decreased stability/control/whatever using 45 versus 22.

250 or point 65 02-14-2009 12:55 PM

Remember, brake wear is not that big of an issue given the carbon brakes...higher brake temps=less brake wear

hslightnin 02-14-2009 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 559328)
Remember, brake wear is not that big of an issue given the carbon brakes...higher brake temps=less brake wear

yes we got that memo
Max reverse followed by light, rapid brake applications is key.
anyway 22 is my pref. you can do 160 till short final. with 45 at MGLW you dont get much wiggle room

blastoff 02-15-2009 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by hslightnin (Post 559502)
yes we got that memo
Max reverse followed by light, rapid brake applications is key.

Well, we try to stay away from Max Rev at XJT because somebody says there's some vibration or stress from the TR's that either the Vertical or horizontal stab doesn't like. Next they'll start telling us to use TR's again because of brake wear. Eagle doesn't even open the buckets.

withthatsaid182 02-16-2009 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by blastoff (Post 559830)
Well, we try to stay away from Max Rev at XJT because somebody says there's some vibration or stress from the TR's that either the Vertical or horizontal stab doesn't like. Next they'll start telling us to use TR's again because of brake wear. Eagle doesn't even open the buckets.

our book says we can only use them on runways less than 7000 feet with braking action less than good or on wet runways when the braking action is fair or worse...lol...i think that is how they state it? probably should know this...anywho...

unless the runway is dry and long i'll use the brakes but anything less and i'll use idle reverse...if you got them, use them...

i figure using idle reverse and light braking is better than heavy braking or just heavy reverse...

that's my take...

fartsarefunny 02-17-2009 03:08 AM

Hard to explain to the FAA why I went off the end of the runway at flaps 22 in an aircraft with flaps that go to 45.......

cgtpilot 02-17-2009 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by fartsarefunny (Post 560767)
Hard to explain to the FAA why I went off the end of the runway at flaps 22 in an aircraft with flaps that go to 45.......

Because its an approved procedure blessed by the gracious Feds in the good book (FOM).


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