PC12 runs off runway at BDR
09-01-2009, 05:15 PM
#22
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I shoot good approaches and eat up runway all the time. Usually because I want to but just because there is an ILS doesn't mean your gonna hit the 1,000 footers. It does give you a pretty fair chance though. Hard to question what a pilot was doing up there when we are sitting down here.
09-02-2009, 03:27 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by HungryPilot
I shoot good approaches and eat up runway all the time. Usually because I want to but just because there is an ILS doesn't mean your gonna hit the 1,000 footers. It does give you a pretty fair chance though. Hard to question what a pilot was doing up there when we are sitting down here.
If someone is floating down the runway in search of a great landing it is due to poor technique. A nice soft landing just past the thousand footers is easily workable providing the correct airspeed as well as correct timing of power reduction and flare or variant of the flare depending on what you fly. If you are not controlling those elements then the taking of more runway is just a crutch for some missing links in a pilots bag of tricks and abilities.
09-02-2009, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
Floating down a runway to a certain extent can be allowable but to make it common practice is asking for trouble. You are correct that if you fly down the ILS at an approach speed of 120 and 800fpm that it will put you AT the thousand footers so unless you want to drive it into the ground you can expect 500 or so more feet for passenger comfort. The first third of the runway is not a suggestion though.
If someone is floating down the runway in search of a great landing it is due to poor technique. A nice soft landing just past the thousand footers is easily workable providing the correct airspeed as well as correct timing of power reduction and flare or variant of the flare depending on what you fly. If you are not controlling those elements then the taking of more runway is just a crutch for some missing links in a pilots bag of tricks and abilities.
If someone is floating down the runway in search of a great landing it is due to poor technique. A nice soft landing just past the thousand footers is easily workable providing the correct airspeed as well as correct timing of power reduction and flare or variant of the flare depending on what you fly. If you are not controlling those elements then the taking of more runway is just a crutch for some missing links in a pilots bag of tricks and abilities.
This sounds right on to me!USMCFLYR
09-02-2009, 05:00 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
That was describing what other pilots do....I for one practice license/job preservation landings which does not include the word "greaser" anywhere in the verbiage.
09-28-2009, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by slipped
umm cant that pt6 be fully reversed? I was under the impression that those things approach at like 80 kias and w/ RT should stop on a dime?
09-29-2009, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate
You are correct.. Perhaps they were doing a VMO approach with simulated brake failure. Not the easiest thing to do
This is interesting, it makes me wonder what happened.
does anyone have an update?
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