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01-11-2018, 05:47 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I don't work in the CPO. However, I suspect the new contract will fix hiring issues. I understand your frustration, I am dying for a pay raise too. I'm just presenting information. I don't work in the CPO, I don't do interviews, I don't do career fairs. I work 70 to 75 hours and go home.
Your job is not to present information. It’s the company’s. Let’s focus on getting a contract here and not recruiting pilots. Enough is enough!
01-11-2018, 06:23 PM
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Position: 1900D CA
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Originally Posted by Patternholder
So when we start picketing the job fairs....I’m sure you will be there with your orange lanyard telling everyone what a great place Frontier is to work?
Your job is not to present information. It’s the company’s. Let’s focus on getting a contract here and not recruiting pilots. Enough is enough!
Your job is not to present information. It’s the company’s. Let’s focus on getting a contract here and not recruiting pilots. Enough is enough!
Our first year pay is 37 an hour, we don't pay for housing during training and we have a 2 year training contract. It's embarrassing! Every one thinking of coming here needs to know the truth, and right now, our contract is in the hands of the NMB, not these forums.
01-11-2018, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
So what is your source of information?
Aircraft lease return dates can be found on the company website in the mtx section under 'active fleet data'
The delivery schedule I got from the Program Manager. It's also available online from airline industry news sites that track orders, deliveries and such.
01-12-2018, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey
Can'tStayAway has got it right. They have been promising explosive growth since 2015. It just hasn't happened yet. It keeps getting pushed back. Will it happen in 2019? Maybe, maybe not.
Yes, there are new deliveries. But an equal number of lease returns have been leaving. Each time that happens, the company pockets approximately $20 million (the difference between what the company buys the aircraft for and what it sells it to a leasing company for). It then leases the new aircraft with rates that have to reflect the higher price.
Franke and Biffle are promising big growth and fast upgrades at the same time they are dragging out a new contract absolutely as long as they can. Somehow the growth just keeps getting pushed back, and the contract never happens.
Come with your eyes wide open.
Yes, there are new deliveries. But an equal number of lease returns have been leaving. Each time that happens, the company pockets approximately $20 million (the difference between what the company buys the aircraft for and what it sells it to a leasing company for). It then leases the new aircraft with rates that have to reflect the higher price.
Franke and Biffle are promising big growth and fast upgrades at the same time they are dragging out a new contract absolutely as long as they can. Somehow the growth just keeps getting pushed back, and the contract never happens.
Come with your eyes wide open.
01-13-2018, 08:33 AM
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Delta didn't offer an interview so is not even in this discussion. A common comment on the Frontier threads is "stay away from Frontier." Well, why are you still here? If I were to guess, no one else has offered you an interview or you wouldn't be here. Stop with the profound recommendations that are not options. Like another APC member posted. "My favorite major airline is the one that offered me a job."
Skywest is based in SLC too and offered an interview. Are they better than Frontier? I don't think so. The future at Skywest is a a guaranteed CRJ job with no upgrade to Captain in SLC for at least 10 years. Look at their pay scale and tell me they are a better option. At Frontier, you're flying an airbus and there WILL eventually be a new contract. As long as there is a contract within 10 years, I am WAY further ahead going with Frontier.
I started this thread to ask which base would be a better commute to/from SLC. Seems like a simple question and thank those who responded with applicable answers.
Skywest is based in SLC too and offered an interview. Are they better than Frontier? I don't think so. The future at Skywest is a a guaranteed CRJ job with no upgrade to Captain in SLC for at least 10 years. Look at their pay scale and tell me they are a better option. At Frontier, you're flying an airbus and there WILL eventually be a new contract. As long as there is a contract within 10 years, I am WAY further ahead going with Frontier.
I started this thread to ask which base would be a better commute to/from SLC. Seems like a simple question and thank those who responded with applicable answers.
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Delta has a SLC base
01-13-2018, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackhawkIP
Delta didn't offer an interview so is not even in this discussion. A common comment on the Frontier threads is "stay away from Frontier." Well, why are you still here? If I were to guess, no one else has offered you an interview or you wouldn't be here. Stop with the profound recommendations that are not options. Like another APC member posted. "My favorite major airline is the one that offered me a job."
Skywest is based in SLC too and offered an interview. Are they better than Frontier? I don't think so. The future at Skywest is a a guaranteed CRJ job with no upgrade to Captain in SLC for at least 10 years. Look at their pay scale and tell me they are a better option. At Frontier, you're flying an airbus and there WILL eventually be a new contract. As long as there is a contract within 10 years, I am WAY further ahead going with Frontier.
I started this thread to ask which base would be a better commute to/from SLC. Seems like a simple question and thank those who responded with applicable answers.
Skywest is based in SLC too and offered an interview. Are they better than Frontier? I don't think so. The future at Skywest is a a guaranteed CRJ job with no upgrade to Captain in SLC for at least 10 years. Look at their pay scale and tell me they are a better option. At Frontier, you're flying an airbus and there WILL eventually be a new contract. As long as there is a contract within 10 years, I am WAY further ahead going with Frontier.
I started this thread to ask which base would be a better commute to/from SLC. Seems like a simple question and thank those who responded with applicable answers.
01-13-2018, 09:46 AM
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Thanks SFA320 for the positive response. Sent you a PM
Originally Posted by SFA320
DEN offers more frequency, but more competition. I usually get on WN and DL, any regional is hit or miss. I’ve been doing SLC to DEN for some time and I have always made it. Early flights going to DEN and really late flights to SLC. Check your PM.
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