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Old 05-04-2018 | 10:37 AM
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What is a TRO?

Temporary restraining order.
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Old 05-04-2018 | 12:53 PM
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TRO = Temporary Restraining Order.

Judges issue it to keep pilots in line and compliant.
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Old 05-04-2018 | 01:30 PM
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Got it, thanks.
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Old 05-04-2018 | 05:07 PM
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300 hours of credit isn't that hard if you're willing to red eye all over the system and then fly all day.

This individual puts his own profits above safety. Sound familiar...

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Old 05-05-2018 | 12:37 PM
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In my humble opinion, 1.25x (for +82 hrs and VJA) and 1.5x for JA are all benefits that we fought for in our current contract. It penalizes the company for poor planning and rewards the pilot on a COMPLETELY volunteer basis. It is a work rule benefit to pilots and takes money (legally) out of Indigo's pocket.

With all the incentivized trips out there, some willing pilots have been getting "future" contract payrates long before we sign the actual contract. I have seen effective pay rates in the $800+ per hour range for some trips. Its a nice alternative - if you choose - until we have a new contract. AND it's a great big F.U. to Indigo and their unwillingness or inability to properly staff this airline. Oh yeah, and it keeps us looking like the super cooperative work group to the NMB which is kind of the whole idea (for now...) and avoids that TRO.

If you think that this is somehow "selfish and self serving" (isn't that redundant?) then I respectfully disagree.

Kinda like Henry Hill said in Goodfellas... "Dont wanna hire enough pilots?
F.U. Pay me."
"CAN'T hire enough pilots because you pay crappy wages...
F.U. Pay me."
"Wanna build crappy trips that always get dropped into open time...
F.U. Pay me."
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Old 05-05-2018 | 12:59 PM
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Kinda like Henry Hill said in Goodfellas... "Dont wanna hire enough pilots?
F.U. Pay me."
"CAN'T hire enough pilots because you pay crappy wages...
F.U. Pay me."
"Wanna build crappy trips that always get dropped into open time...
F.U. Pay me."


Classic!!!
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Old 05-15-2018 | 01:11 PM
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Seems prostans has had a couple chat with our busy little beaver. He was redeyeing in to a 12 duty day and SLEEPING MOST OF THE FLIGHTS HE PICKED UP! A low level revolt of FO’s made it clear that’s not acceptable.....now is ok to wait for Barry’s shake?
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Old 05-15-2018 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DC7C
Seems prostans has had a couple chat with our busy little beaver. He was redeyeing in to a 12 duty day and SLEEPING MOST OF THE FLIGHTS HE PICKED UP! A low level revolt of FO’s made it clear that’s not acceptable.....now is ok to wait for Barry’s shake?
Sounds like an FAR violation showing up for work like that - opinions ?
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Old 05-15-2018 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DC7C
Seems prostans has had a couple chat with our busy little beaver. He was redeyeing in to a 12 duty day and SLEEPING MOST OF THE FLIGHTS HE PICKED UP! A low level revolt of FO’s made it clear that’s not acceptable.....now is ok to wait for Barry’s shake?

I don't think you understand the function of "prostans".
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Old 05-16-2018 | 06:23 PM
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[QUOTE=Harry Canyon;2586980]In my humble opinion, 1.25x (for +82 hrs and VJA) and 1.5x for JA are all benefits that we fought for in our current contract. It penalizes the company for poor planning and rewards the pilot on a COMPLETELY volunteer basis. It is a work rule benefit to pilots and takes money (legally) out of Indigo's pocket.

With all the incentivized trips out there, some willing pilots have been getting "future" contract payrates long before we sign the actual contract. I have seen effective pay rates in the $800+ per hour range for some trips. Its a nice alternative - if you choose - until we have a new contract. AND it's a great big F.U. to Indigo and their unwillingness or inability to properly staff this airline. Oh yeah, and it keeps us looking like the super cooperative work group to the NMB which is kind of the whole idea (for now...) and avoids that TRO. QUOTE]

And the company is arguing in their letter to the NMB that they are "saddled with an exorbitant credit to block ratio which render Frontier unable to run the airline"....Ha.....Ummm they are the ones offering all the incentive pay!!
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