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Ohreallynow 06-15-2018 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Need a real job (Post 2615094)
Management troll. Must be getting nervous up there

It's not a troll since they are thankful.

ExecNav 06-15-2018 01:16 PM

Quality sh(beep)tpost.

Big E 757 06-15-2018 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by dang (Post 2615002)
At this point not picking up incentive trips would be more detrimental to us getting a contract then picking them up. There should be no blame for people picking up trips or new hires taking jobs. The only blame is with our immoral management. They only care about lining their pockets and don’t care about their employees. Remember where your anger should be pointed.

Spoken like someone who is picking up incentivized trips.:rolleyes:

I don’t work for Frontier so I can blast him. Picking up extra flying and helping to complete flights that might otherwise cancel is way, way, way more detrimental to your cause. Where Spirit got in trouble was all the online talk about it. If everyone got on board and stopped picking up flying silently, and flights started cancelling regularly, you’d be having much more effective bargaining sessions with management.

And don’t worry, there will always be enough greedy, selfish pilots picking up just enough to prevent the perception of a work action.

Again, I don’t work for Frontier, but if my comments might cause any problems for Frontier pilots, then please Mods, delete my post. That isn’t my intent.

deltajuliet 06-16-2018 10:18 AM

Like the previous poster, I don’t work at Frontier. Agreed that picking up premium is a great way to not get a contract. Speaking of which...


Originally Posted by dang (Post 2615002)
At this point not picking up incentive trips would be more detrimental to us getting a contract then picking them up. There should be no blame for people picking up trips or new hires taking jobs. The only blame is with our immoral management. They only care about lining their pockets and don’t care about their employees. Remember where your anger should be pointed.

People shouldn’t be taking jobs at a carrier in contentious, drawn out negotiations. If everybody just collectively realized that not applying for two months would get Frontier a contract in the same span of time, everyone would be golden, the current pilots and the prospective new hires.

We had the same frustrating thing happen at my regional - as long as people were applying, no contract. It was only when the well had dried up and “behind the power curve” became an understatement that management finally come to the table. Our contract had been amendable seven years.

Pilots really can be their own worst enemies.

SuperDuty 06-16-2018 12:21 PM

Agree or disagree, this entire discussion is better had over a beer than on a public forum. Let's just drop it. Mission of the OP troll accomplished. Everyone keep doing what you're doing and don't do anything stupid this close to the finish line.

Ohreallynow 06-16-2018 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by SuperDuty (Post 2615673)
Agree or disagree, this entire discussion is better had over a beer than on a public forum. Let's just drop it. Mission of the OP troll accomplished. Everyone keep doing what you're doing and don't do anything stupid this close to the finish line.

How close are we again?

dracir1 06-16-2018 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by SuperDuty (Post 2615673)
Agree or disagree, this entire discussion is better had over a beer than on a public forum. Let's just drop it. Mission of the OP troll accomplished. Everyone keep doing what you're doing and don't do anything stupid this close to the finish line.

Agreed. This shouldn’t even be a thread. Would be smart for anyone actually at F9 or elsewhere not in a mgt position to ignore from here on out...

There is a negotiations thread.

SuperDuty 06-16-2018 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Ohreallynow (Post 2615711)
How close are we again?

Considering how desperate they are acting..... closer than we were last week.......

no one knows obviously, but one thing is certain - they would love for us to misstep right now.

Ohreallynow 06-16-2018 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by SuperDuty (Post 2615719)
Considering how desperate they are acting..... closer than we were last week.......

no one knows obviously, but one thing is certain - they would love for us to misstep right now.

They misstep and still blame us.

Missed Appch 06-16-2018 03:19 PM

We are nowhere near the finish line. Not even close.


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