Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 2920594)
I get that. Totally.
But what about when you have a 20 minute wait for a gate? Or you are number 15 for takeoff in LGA? You just keep em burning? An attempt to save an APU start and 50lbs of Jet A results in at least, hundreds of thousands of dollars of AoG, schedule disruption et al. How many times is this multiplied if someone has to wash Dudley out of the hot section of a LEAP 1a... Many stations won’t even approach an aircraft with a beacon on. The problem is that stations aren’t performing to the level we need. APU start can be 10 prior to push and run for less than 5 once we’ve blocked in. That’s what it was designed for, and what other operators do. Right now we’re being asked to comply with what is in effect an APU inop profile... I do hope they can revisit this policy and move this particular opportunity for savings back to the station, there’s no need to reinvent the wheel here, just ensure everyone is doing their job.... |
Originally Posted by NWSteeringArmer
(Post 2920593)
You want to have #1 spinning for 3 minutes while they fumble around trying to hook up ground power, have at it... you’re gonna have it on your conscience when Dudley dip$hit walks into a running engine because he wasn’t trained properly or natural selection just decided it was his time... I can’t believe anyone would pull into any gate without the apu running... save em a few bucks... it’ll show in your profit sharing
When the company throws you under the bus for engine damage let alone someone's life |
I’m ok with single engine taxiing to the gate with the APU on, have them hook up then kill the APU. Read the the engine tailpipe fire procedures. You need a bleed source to assist in putting it out good luck getting someone to hookup high pressure air at that point.
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Originally Posted by NWSteeringArmer
(Post 2920593)
You want to have #1 spinning for 3 minutes while they fumble around trying to hook up ground power, have at it... you’re gonna have it on your conscience when Dudley dip$hit walks into a running engine because he wasn’t trained properly or natural selection just decided it was his time... I can’t believe anyone would pull into any gate without the apu running... save em a few bucks... it’ll show in your profit sharing
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Originally Posted by Notarealpilot
(Post 2920693)
I’m ok with single engine taxiing to the gate with the APU on, have them hook up then kill the APU. Read the the engine tailpipe fire procedures. You need a bleed source to assist in putting it out good luck getting someone to hookup high pressure air at that point.
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Not to mention that there actually was a post-shutdown tailpipe fire event in the not too distant past.
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Although I share your concerns as well, regarding ingesting a romper. This is not re-inventing the wheel, rather returning to how we used to do things. During bankruptcy, we waited until the very end to use the APU, single engine taxi with cross-bleed, and no APU on landing. I recently traveled to Europe and rode an ULCC there, they don’t ever use their APU. They do indeed have good, trained ground staff. I have no problem returning to how we did things, but I would also like to see a little investment in ground personnel.
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Originally Posted by phoenix 23684
(Post 2922170)
Although I share your concerns as well, regarding ingesting a romper. This is not re-inventing the wheel, rather returning to how we used to do things. During bankruptcy, we waited until the very end to use the APU, single engine taxi with cross-bleed, and no APU on landing. I recently traveled to Europe and rode an ULCC there, they don’t ever use their APU. They do indeed have good, trained ground staff. I have no problem returning to how we did things, but I would also like to see a little investment in ground personnel.
• "share concerns" • compare to Europe but then immediately concede they have good ground staff. • Know full well "a little investment in ground personnel" will never happen. Do you plan to go back to "how we used to do things"? |
Originally Posted by Wheelswatch
(Post 2923185)
So if you:
• "share concerns" • compare to Europe but then immediately concede they have good ground staff. • Know full well "a little investment in ground personnel" will never happen. Do you plan to go back to "how we used to do things"? Oh look, a thread about the new jacket! Nope, it’s APU usage. Crazy pills. |
Originally Posted by Brickhut
(Post 2923194)
What does any of this have to do with the new jacket option? Either go start a thread on the subject, or start talking about jackets. This thread, as so many before them, have gone off the rails. Let’s at least make a mediocre attempt at keeping our house clean on APC.
Oh look, a thread about the new jacket! Nope, it’s APU usage. Crazy pills. |
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