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Old 07-29-2020, 10:32 AM
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They’ve been sitting on that SEC IPO filing for 3 years. Why are they notifying that they intend to stay private right now? Is it just the forecast for the next few years or something more? It seems like could have continued to keep the filing on the back burner. Let the speculation begin.

https://bizwest.com/2020/07/28/front...s-cancels-ipo/
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Are there costs with keeping it alive and filed. If so are they flat or relative to the proposed value? We could think it’s doom and gloom but we’re one of the best performing airlines regarding profit right now so doom and gloom is less likely. Most likely reasons are related to costs, expectations of large profits and not wanting to share them, and the ability to remain very flexible in trying times.

Or it’s just not needed anymore...
  1. A reverse merger is when a private companybecomes a public company by purchasing control of the public company.
  2. When a company plans to go public through an IPO, the process can take a year or more to complete, but with a reverse merger, a private company can go public in as little as 30 days.
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Or it’s just not needed anymore...
  1. A reverse merger is when a private companybecomes a public company by purchasing control of the public company.
  2. When a company plans to go public through an IPO, the process can take a year or more to complete, but with a reverse merger, a private company can go public in as little as 30 days.
Yeah... that’s the one.
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Originally Posted by Gary et al View Post
Are there costs with keeping it alive and filed. If so are they flat or relative to the proposed value? We could think it’s doom and gloom but we’re one of the best performing airlines regarding profit right now so doom and gloom is less likely. Most likely reasons are related to costs, expectations of large profits and not wanting to share them, and the ability to remain very flexible in trying times.

Or it’s just not needed anymore...
  1. A reverse merger is when a private companybecomes a public company by purchasing control of the public company.
  2. When a company plans to go public through an IPO, the process can take a year or more to complete, but with a reverse merger, a private company can go public in as little as 30 days.
A lot of people at Allegiant think a merger or buyout is in the works. Stranger things have happened.
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Old 07-30-2020, 05:53 AM
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Default Cost cutting

Speculation is fun; and i’m sure we’ll
see airline consolidation in the LCC/ULCC space before this is all done, but in all likelihood it was simply an effort To cut costs.
no doubt there were legal and administrative fees associated with the filing: and the company is just reducing cash burn anywhere it can.
something we should all be grateful for...
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Allegiant has a very different business model. I seriously doubt we are going to merge with them.
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Most likely they never saw a window to get the IPO valuation they wanted and now the time frame is so far in the future to see that there is no point. Also if you are going to float a IPO you have to make a lot of financial disclosures a private company is not required to put out.
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Allegiant has a very different business model. I seriously doubt we are going to merge with them.
I don't think its that different. We both fly the leisure passenger to Vegas and alot of warm weather destinations. I know we tried to fly to a couple of their cities from LAS but there wasn't enough business for 2 ULCC's, so not a lot of overlap. Since covid it seems like a majority of our trips are now out and backs just like Allegiant. We're both all Airbus although Allegiant's are older and still alot of 319's. They have their name on the new Raiders stadium, and if you're lucky you can be based in Grand Rapids !!! I wouldn't want to merge but it wouldn't be horrible IMHO...
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I wouldn't want to merge but it wouldn't be horrible IMHO...
I don't want to merger w anyone. Only airline that seems like it should be a fair merger seniority wise is spirit. But it's really not up to me, i just show up.
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Allegiant has a very different business model. I seriously doubt we are going to merge with them.
Maybe that's the key? You guys fly to larger cities, we fly to smaller cities. We also have the additional revenue generating capacity of a full service travel agency. The synergies are endless. It actually makes sense. Our management seems to have checked out and said "Jesus take the wheel" over the last few months, so something is in the works.
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