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Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3410035)
American Airlines lost 1.64 Billion. 18 Million / day.
Ouch They have $15.5B in liquidity. Not close to bankruptcy. Adjusting for size, AMR and UAL losses would be equivalent to F9 losing ~$75M in Q1. |
Originally Posted by Andy
(Post 3410102)
American also forecast to be profitable in Q2.
They have $15.5B in liquidity. Not close to bankruptcy. Adjusting for size, AMR and UAL losses would be equivalent to F9 losing ~$75M in Q1. Thanks for the response |
1Q almost always loses money for all airlines. Sure, there are rare exceptions.
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
(Post 3410225)
1Q almost always loses money for all airlines. Sure, there are rare exceptions.
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3410222)
I think I read one anslyst expects Frontier to loose about 70 Million, so I guess we are all doing about the same... we will see in a week.
Thanks for the response United lost 2.50 cents per ASM Frontier lost 2.06 cents per ASM |
Originally Posted by Andy
(Post 3413826)
For as close to apples to apples comparison of Q1 results,
United lost 2.50 cents per ASM Frontier lost 2.06 cents per ASM They sounded very optimistic about the future, but I guess Jan/Feb was ugly. Sales and revenue much better in March and looking good going forward. |
Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3413842)
I listened to some of the call.
They sounded very optimistic about the future, but I guess Jan/Feb was ugly. Sales and revenue much better in March and looking good going forward. Jan/Feb sukked, Mar was good, forward guidance great. Let's all hope so; it would be great if airlines would return to profitability. United's problem going forward is that we're heavily dependent on Asian flying. And Asian underperformance was highlighted in Hawaiian Airlines' Q1 conference call. American and Delta should do better than United until Asia reopens. |
Originally Posted by Andy
(Post 3413864)
That sounds like a carbon copy of every other airline's Q1 report.
Jan/Feb sukked, Mar was good, forward guidance great. Let's all hope so; it would be great if airlines would return to profitability. United's problem going forward is that we're heavily dependent on Asian flying. And Asian underperformance was highlighted in Hawaiian Airlines' Q1 conference call. American and Delta should do better than United until Asia reopens. I know China is being incredibly strict with Covid stuff still.... |
Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3413842)
I listened to some of the call.
They sounded very optimistic about the future, but I guess Jan/Feb was ugly. Sales and revenue much better in March and looking good going forward. I know travel demand's high at the moment, but I would not at all be surprised to see airlines starting to park aircraft before the end of this year for financial reasons. The pent up demand for travel looks like it is going to be overtaken by economic concerns. On the bright side, the current pilot shortage will minimize layoffs should we have a big drop in traffic. Unfortunately, I'm not seeing a road to profitability for airlines unless demand increases. |
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