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Old 11-23-2022, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK View Post
Just having fun and poking the angry public negotiator bears this morning.

Good morning APC.
I just wanna be angry bro, grr!
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Old 11-23-2022, 10:43 AM
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I just wanna be angry bro, grr!
Ragebro, put put all that energy to use. I have a CUN layover coming up, look up hostels we can stay at to help out the company.
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Old 11-23-2022, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DumboDrop View Post
Brodacious dudes, we are off to a great start. It's obvious that management is overwhelmed by running this airline. We need to take more off their plate. I for one will be going to Costco to get my own c-folds, trash bags, and toilet paper, as it's clear that it's just to difficult for them to manage. I know everyone can find a way to help out and make management's job easier so it better matches their capabilities.
You may as well just start a catering company and undercut the current one by 1 dollar...

Just yesterday, catering stocked a broken airplane but then flat out refused to transfer the carts over the the new tail (gates were right next to each other!!!). We were told to either go with zero or get the items ourselves. I don't get how F9 would let catering just flat out refuse like that. They lost out on SO much ancillary revenue with a packed flight of holiday travelers.
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Old 11-23-2022, 11:39 AM
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You may as well just start a catering company and undercut the current one by 1 dollar...

Just yesterday, catering stocked a broken airplane but then flat out refused to transfer the carts over the the new tail (gates were right next to each other!!!). We were told to either go with zero or get the items ourselves. I don't get how F9 would let catering just flat out refuse like that. They lost out on SO much ancillary revenue with a packed flight of holiday travelers.
Sounds like a gate agent who said she cleaned up vomit the other day and cleaning up a milkshake that spilled on the wall next to our gate podium was asking too much of her.... So we sat there waiting for our plane and just watched this shake drip down the vent/wall until we left.
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Old 11-23-2022, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by brocklee9000 View Post
Legacies aren’t really hurting for pilots, but they’re doing pretty well in bargaining. Seems like when they (or I guess their union) see Major Airline A gets such and such pay and benefits, then Major Airline B tries to match or do A+1 or whatever. I see no reason why Frontier and others can’t fight for more and take advantage of rising tides. I’m coming here to get away from the regional life, for many of the QOL reasons you guys cite, and for the hope pay and benefits continue to increase.
It’s called pattern bargaining. As F9 gets larger, you will be more of a data point for the “Majors”. It’s important to be on par. SWA went through that. At one time they were small and it seems only pilots that couldn’t get hired elsewhere went there for the most part. That all gradually changed and became a very good place to work. Contracts got much better. Nowadays their contract is used to compare during negotiations with other “Majors”.
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Old 11-26-2022, 07:42 AM
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It’s called pattern bargaining. As F9 gets larger, you will be more of a data point for the “Majors”. It’s important to be on par. SWA went through that. At one time they were small and it seems only pilots that couldn’t get hired elsewhere went there for the most part. That all gradually changed and became a very good place to work. Contracts got much better. Nowadays their contract is used to compare during negotiations with other “Majors”.
You forget one tiny detail about SWA...

They had GREAT management that was more interested in running an airline and taking care of their employees than squeezing every nickel they could get out of them.
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Old 11-26-2022, 08:28 AM
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I'm for no paper products on board for weight/fuel/cost savings. Use your hand like during COVID.

You guys did that too, right?
to wipe in the lav? Hell yeah brother
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Old 11-26-2022, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by dracir1 View Post
You forget one tiny detail about SWA...

They had GREAT management that was more interested in running an airline and taking care of their employees than squeezing every nickel they could get out of them.
Yeah. Major difference in mgt/employee relationship although it’s soured some in recent years at SWA.
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