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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK (Post 3573672)

Management already made Texas dreams come true with DFW. Let’s make MDW happen and restore the good will of the people they screwed, then we can talk about everyone else.

no. Not a dream come true, but it is better then nothing. But what a joke. 20 to open.

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Originally Posted by Mooneyguy (Post 3574176)

no. Not a dream come true, but it is better than nothing. But what a joke. 20 to open.

That’s pretty standard first bid

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Originally Posted by Mooneyguy (Post 3574176)

no. Not a dream come true, but it is better then nothing. But what a joke. 20 to open.

Much better than opening with 100 and have a system wide bump and flush drawing down other bases to staff it.

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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver (Post 3574194)

Much better than opening with 100 and have a system wide bump and flush drawing down other bases to staff it.

Ya seriously. How else were they supposed to do it?

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Originally Posted by WeiserTraffic (Post 3537005)

… is a purely speculative dream of which would do wonders if brought to fruition!

In all seriousness though, Houston is growing just as rapidly as DFW in terms of population influx and there is an indisputable ULCC market with Spirit having opened an IAH crew base. In May ‘23 F9 will have crew bases established in the fortress hubs of both DAL and AA. Could UAL be next in the proverbial crosshairs and if so could IAH reasonably become a focus city for F9?

I keep hearing from several people that Barry comes into new hire classes and says the next new base will be in Ohio which leads me to believe it’s CLE or CVG.

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Originally Posted by Mustang0127 (Post 3574231)

I keep hearing from several people that Barry comes into new hire classes and says the next new base will be in Ohio which leads me to believe it’s CLE or CVG.

Our class was told they're looking at CVG.

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Originally Posted by planejoe (Post 3574333)

Our class was told they're looking at CVG.

I don’t understand why it would be CVG considering CLE has way more daily operations than CVG.

But CVG=cargo so freighter 321’s confirmed. We’ll be flying combis soon enough.

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Originally Posted by nochopforboxes (Post 3574426)

I don’t understand why it would be CVG considering CLE has way more daily operations than CVG.

But CVG=cargo so freighter 321’s confirmed. We’ll be flying combis soon enough.

At the moment CLE does have more but this past summer for several months CVG had a few more when I looked. CVG may be cheaper to operate out of considering is more centrally located in the country therefore having shorter legs and may decrease the need for company paid hotels. Also, I would imagine a much lesser frequency of de-icing in the winter at CVG. The company probably doesn't care but if you had to commute to one or the other, CVG would likely be easier given the high volume of freight.

some things which are factors when deciding a base

hangars available for on-site maintenance, to include jacking plane and tire, engine changes

number of hotel/overnights in that city (base status reduces this cost)

local economy, potential

gates, jetbridges, costs associated with the local airport board/committee/authority

other airlines operating there = not revinventing the wheel, a pool of passengers to steal from, etc.

that said, my crystal ball says CVG

https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/lo...s/95-479010736

https://www.cvgairport.com/about

Pre-Covid article but still good: http://www.usmayors.org/wp-content/u...-July-2018.pdf

Remember Frontier's passenger demographic is not really "brand loyal" they are "cheap loyal" so the more to steal from other carriers, the better. Business 101. McDonalds does it with Burger King (this is why a McDonalds is one block away from a Burger King). Also, big Fortune 500 HQ hub cities typically have employees with families and kids, and some income to travel. Again, Cincinnati.

My crystal ball....

Allegiant has a CVG base there and they’re pretty cheap also. CLE has spirit but they may get smaller with the JBLU merger. Does frontier utilize any hangars besides denver and Tampa ? I thought it was all outside and idk if cvg has any hangar space.