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Originally Posted by hercretired
(Post 3574515)
some things which are factors when deciding a base
hangars available for on-site maintenance, to include jacking plane and tire, engine changes number of hotel/overnights in that city (base status reduces this cost) local economy, potential gates, jetbridges, costs associated with the local airport board/committee/authority other airlines operating there = not revinventing the wheel, a pool of passengers to steal from, etc. that said, my crystal ball says CVG https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/lo...s/95-479010736 https://www.cvgairport.com/about Pre-Covid article but still good: http://www.usmayors.org/wp-content/u...-July-2018.pdf Remember Frontier's passenger demographic is not really "brand loyal" they are "cheap loyal" so the more to steal from other carriers, the better. Business 101. McDonalds does it with Burger King (this is why a McDonalds is one block away from a Burger King). Also, big Fortune 500 HQ hub cities typically have employees with families and kids, and some income to travel. Again, Cincinnati. My crystal ball.... |
Originally Posted by madmax757
(Post 3574582)
Allegiant has a CVG base there and they’re pretty cheap also. CLE has spirit but they may get smaller with the JBLU merger. Does frontier utilize any hangars besides denver and Tampa ? I thought it was all outside and idk if cvg has any hangar space.
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Originally Posted by hercretired
(Post 3574515)
some things which are factors when deciding a base
hangars available for on-site maintenance, to include jacking plane and tire, engine changes number of hotel/overnights in that city (base status reduces this cost) local economy, potential gates, jetbridges, costs associated with the local airport board/committee/authority other airlines operating there = not revinventing the wheel, a pool of passengers to steal from, etc. that said, my crystal ball says CVG https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/lo...s/95-479010736 https://www.cvgairport.com/about Pre-Covid article but still good: http://www.usmayors.org/wp-content/u...-July-2018.pdf Remember Frontier's passenger demographic is not really "brand loyal" they are "cheap loyal" so the more to steal from other carriers, the better. Business 101. McDonalds does it with Burger King (this is why a McDonalds is one block away from a Burger King). Also, big Fortune 500 HQ hub cities typically have employees with families and kids, and some income to travel. Again, Cincinnati. My crystal ball.... Agree. CVG is a growing city and area and is a better base all around for the crew as well. Much easier commute to/from and a much larger pilot pool with the surrounding areas of Day/Col/Lou/Lex within easy drive. |
Originally Posted by madmax757
(Post 3574582)
Allegiant has a CVG base there and they’re pretty cheap also. CLE has spirit but they may get smaller with the JBLU merger. Does frontier utilize any hangars besides denver and Tampa ? I thought it was all outside and idk if cvg has any hangar space.
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Originally Posted by nochopforboxes
(Post 3574750)
Don’t think Spirit has CLE… maybe you’re thinking of DTW? Unless APC, and myself, isn’t up to date.
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Originally Posted by hercretired
(Post 3574515)
some things which are factors when deciding a base
hangars available for on-site maintenance, to include jacking plane and tire, engine changes number of hotel/overnights in that city (base status reduces this cost) local economy, potential gates, jetbridges, costs associated with the local airport board/committee/authority other airlines operating there = not revinventing the wheel, a pool of passengers to steal from, etc. that said, my crystal ball says CVG https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/lo...s/95-479010736 https://www.cvgairport.com/about Pre-Covid article but still good: http://www.usmayors.org/wp-content/u...-July-2018.pdf Remember Frontier's passenger demographic is not really "brand loyal" they are "cheap loyal" so the more to steal from other carriers, the better. Business 101. McDonalds does it with Burger King (this is why a McDonalds is one block away from a Burger King). Also, big Fortune 500 HQ hub cities typically have employees with families and kids, and some income to travel. Again, Cincinnati. My crystal ball.... |
Originally Posted by Mustang0127
(Post 3574804)
Pretty good articles. wonder when and if they would want to open a new base? does anyone know a timeline or a ballpark idea?
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[QUOTE=hercretired;3574515]some things which are factors when deciding a base
hangars available for on-site maintenance, to include jacking plane and tire, engine changes number of hotel/overnights in that city (base status reduces this cost) local economy, potential gates, jetbridges, costs associated with the local airport board/committee/authority other airlines operating there = not revinventing the wheel, a pool of passengers to steal from, etc. that said, my crystal ball says CVG https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/lo...s/95-479010736 https://www.cvgairport.com/about Pre-Covid article but still good: http://www.usmayors.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Ohio-Metro-Economies-Report-July-2018. Leave it to the company to pick CLE and deal with lots lake front weather!! Cincinnati is booming, however on paper Cincinnati for us has slowed down significantly. Cleveland has twice as many departures in a day. However, Cleveland and Midway would be awful close. 40 min flight? No Midway I know, but I bet it’s in the pipeline in the future. Can’t grow 3 times our size and not have a good presence in Chicago. I know I know, PHX and LAS are fairly close also. |
I thought I’d heard something about BOS as a potential as well, supposedly being said by BB to new hire classes. Is there any latest/greatest with that?
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Originally Posted by nochopforboxes
(Post 3574750)
Don’t think Spirit has CLE… maybe you’re thinking of DTW? Unless APC, and myself, isn’t up to date.
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