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turbojet28 01-10-2023 05:28 PM
Originally Posted by Mugatu (Post 3568583)
Not that it really matters when United buys us.
God I hope so, and soon, please.

spooldup 01-10-2023 05:44 PM
100/hr and 50k new hire loans. Smells of desperation. Blood is in the water and there will be nothing left but to negotiate with us and we cannot let this pass us up. They need pilots to grow this airline and if they cant grow it they wont make money, we have to get all we can with this next CBA.

Aero1900 01-10-2023 05:45 PM
Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 3568664)
100/hr and 50k new hire loans. Smells of desperation. Blood is in the water and there will be nothing left but to negotiate with us and we cannot let this pass us up. They need pilots to grow this airline and if they cant grow it they wont make money, we have to get all we can with this next CBA.
Agreed. The good news is the company is willing to raise pay to get the pilots they need.

Stayontarget 01-10-2023 05:46 PM
Originally Posted by BufordT Justice (Post 3568643)
Bull. We decide what compensation package we get. Anything less than JetBlue or Alaska better not even make it to a vote.

These recent first year pay bumps and bonus programs indicate the company recognizes they’ve got a massive problem. We better be ready to take advantage.
This echos my thoughts exactly. They know what they have to do. The only question is how hard will both parties fight and how long will it take.

Sadly I have flown with a few that saw the Spirit rates and thought that would be great. God help us.

spooldup 01-10-2023 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3568667)
Sadly I have flown with a few that saw the Spirit rates and thought that would be great. God help us.
Do they know its mainly just a bridge till their JCBA or full CBA because their attrition was SO bad they are parking planes???

What do they think of Delta rates? must be some sort of unicorn i guess and they wont ever hope to get close because "we are a ULCC" this mindset needs to change.

Salukipilot4590 01-10-2023 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3568666)
Agreed. The good news is the company is willing to raise pay to get the pilots they need.
Did we get a raise and I just missed it?

Are 99% of us somehow richer now?

spooldup 01-10-2023 05:52 PM
Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 3568673)
Did we get a raise and I just missed it?

Are 99% of us somehow richer now?
be grateful for these first year raises and they will help you in the long run....

Xdashdriver 01-10-2023 05:58 PM
LOL...Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again yet expecting different results? $35k didn't work, so let's up it to $50k!

BufordT Justice 01-10-2023 06:01 PM
Originally Posted by Xdashdriver (Post 3568677)
LOL...Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again yet expecting different results? $35k didn't work, so let's up it to $50k!
Company is now spending $2.5-3 MILLION per month on new hire bonuses alone. That is absurd.

Salukipilot4590 01-10-2023 06:02 PM
Originally Posted by Xdashdriver (Post 3568677)
LOL...Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again yet expecting different results? $35k didn't work, so let's up it to $50k!
Who said it didn't work? Classes be full of bright-eyed youngsters eager to come online!

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