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Right. And it shouldn’t be surprising to anybody…with the trouble they’ve had hiring/retaining LCA’s it makes sense the company makes the chiefs available for IOE/line checks.
#22
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Oh get out the popcorn. Some of our high mins base chiefs are going to be doing IOE? I hate to wonder what's next around here..
#23
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Yes, I very much got my acronyms mixed up. I could say it was because I had both tears and laughter going on. However it was more likely fear for where we may be headed as two of the least qualified pilots step in to a training / checking position.
If they are to be LCA’s that is one thing, but if they are to be APD’s that to me is frightening.
Either way diminishes the standard in a way that is concerning.One that I would hope ALPA would be watching closely.
If they are to be LCA’s that is one thing, but if they are to be APD’s that to me is frightening.
Either way diminishes the standard in a way that is concerning.One that I would hope ALPA would be watching closely.
#24
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This is one of the most frightening things I've heard of. Neither of the Denver management "pilots" have any business doing any kind of instruction whatsoever.
#25
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From: 1900D CA
Hold up. You guys are just making sh|t up here.
S.C. and E.S are not going to be APDs. So settle down.
And for the record S.C. would be a good LCA. He's a good guy and a good pilot. It's unfair to say he's "the least qualified." That's totally ridiculous.
Now E.S. on the other hand.... yeah, I agree
S.C. and E.S are not going to be APDs. So settle down.
And for the record S.C. would be a good LCA. He's a good guy and a good pilot. It's unfair to say he's "the least qualified." That's totally ridiculous.
Now E.S. on the other hand.... yeah, I agree
#26
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From: Lineholder
Hold up. You guys are just making sh|t up here.
S.C. and E.S are not going to be APDs. So settle down.
And for the record S.C. would be a good LCA. He's a good guy and a good pilot. It's unfair to say he's "the least qualified." That's totally ridiculous.
Now E.S. on the other hand.... yeah, I agree
S.C. and E.S are not going to be APDs. So settle down.
And for the record S.C. would be a good LCA. He's a good guy and a good pilot. It's unfair to say he's "the least qualified." That's totally ridiculous.
Now E.S. on the other hand.... yeah, I agree
Not a good idea to me…
#27
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From: 1900D CA
I don’t think ANY of the Chief Pilots should be any sort of check position. For one, that’s sort of a conflict of interest. Asking your CP to give a line check to a pilot whom they know is troublesome in non-flying areas (like showing up late, etc) but is otherwise a capable pilot screams of a questionable situation. If the pilot fails a checkride, I’m sure they’ll think it’s because of the CPs dislike of them (and start a subsequent grievance). Two, the CPs are already busy. But third, and most important, CPs are paid a monthly guarantee without override. Having them fly IOE for “free” takes $ away from some other LCA.
Not a good idea to me…
Not a good idea to me…
#30
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I'm intimately familiar with the difference. I highlighted the difference a few posts up. If they won't be giving actual checks (which is what I inferred from "actual checks rides [sic]" -- I read it as actual checks/rides), what's the point in them being a LCA? I know they won't be conducting type rating checkrides because they won't be APDs.
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