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Old 08-08-2023 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by UpwardInflow
It was reported today that BB sold 37% of his stock. Take a look at our stock vs. the industry. My gut tells me we are in trouble. I’m talking slow speed train wreck kind of trouble. A liquidation of 37% of the CEOs holdings in the company when the stock is way down is a really, really bad signal.

What say the masses?
Not sure, but the operational metrics seem to indicate BB is performing in line with the stock.
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Old 08-08-2023 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by UpwardInflow
It was reported today that BB sold 37% of his stock. Take a look at our stock vs. the industry. My gut tells me we are in trouble. I’m talking slow speed train wreck kind of trouble. A liquidation of 37% of the CEOs holdings in the company when the stock is way down is a really, really bad signal.

What say the masses?
It says that he is probably knowing he will be on the way out soon. I am sure Franke doesn't appreciate single digit margins when everyone else was at least double digit. Current management has ran this place into the ground since covid... Pre covid, F9 was doing pretty well. Expect a management shakeup in the near future if I had to guess.

but, you also have to remember the uppers are paid in shares more than cash... so if he sells X amount of shares, it is just him collecting money he might need for something instead of leaving it in the stocks. (like that house in Texas)

But no, I am not scared about someone in management selling their stocks.
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Old 08-08-2023 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeFever1
I would think it says BB could finally be on the way out?
that's what i was thinking.
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Old 08-08-2023 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by spooldup
It says that he is probably knowing he will be on the way out soon. I am sure Franke doesn't appreciate single digit margins when everyone else was at least double digit. Current management has ran this place into the ground since covid... Pre covid, F9 was doing pretty well. Expect a management shakeup in the near future if I had to guess.

but, you also have to remember the uppers are paid in shares more than cash... so if he sells X amount of shares, it is just him collecting money he might need for something instead of leaving it in the stocks. (like that house in Texas)

But no, I am not scared about someone in management selling their stocks.
I agree with all off this. Upper management is paid with stock, not salary. It's the same at most every company. And for good reason too. Far less taxes on that income. 15% vs 37%. So no, Biffle selling stock is not a sign the sky is falling. And if you all recall, we are making roughly a million dollars a day
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Old 08-08-2023 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary et al
Not sure, but the operational metrics seem to indicate BB is performing in line with the stock.
There hasn’t been a metric that has met any of the goals for weeks. I think I saw one in the black and it was bag metric.

Also BB hasn’t put out any cool aid videos for some time now.

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Old 08-08-2023 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax757
There hasn’t been a metric that has met any of the goals for weeks. I think I saw one in the black and it was bag metric.
I would wager a fair amount of money that there hasn't been 10 total "black" metrics since they started the emails.
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Old 08-08-2023 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax757
There hasn’t been a metric that has met any of the goals for weeks. I think I saw one in the black and it was bag metric.
what metric do you think the investors care about? Because it's not on the lists. It's profit. Which was over 9% last quarter
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Old 08-08-2023 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
what metric do you think the investors care about? Because it's not on the lists. It's profit. Which was over 9% last quarter
If I’m an investor, I’d absolutely care about how bad the performance numbers are. It’s easy to poke fun of “chicken littles”, but these numbers are a legitimate concern from a sustainability standpoint.
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Old 08-08-2023 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by turbojet28
If I’m an investor, I’d absolutely care about how bad the performance numbers are. It’s easy to poke fun of “chicken littles”, but these numbers are a legitimate concern from a sustainability standpoint.
Of course they don’t happen in a vacuum. I have no idea how they compare to everybody else.
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Old 08-08-2023 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by UpwardInflow
It was reported today that BB sold 37% of his stock. Take a look at our stock vs. the industry. My gut tells me we are in trouble. I’m talking slow speed train wreck kind of trouble. A liquidation of 37% of the CEOs holdings in the company when the stock is way down is a really, really bad signal.

What say the masses?
My thoughts go back to just a year ago we were aiming to purchase a company almost twice our size and now in just that short time the ship is sinking?

Even if it is do you think it will just go to zero? Or do you think a more likely outcome would be an outside purchase of some kind before it’s allowed to get there? I can’t see an investment company letting 2B evaporate.
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