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Old 12-21-2023, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by planejoe View Post
Is the class smaller now or is it cancelled entirely?
“With our newly announced out and back schedule, our operation has become increasingly more efficient.

While we're happy the new model is working so well and has been well received by our crews, it has in turn reduced the size of our new hire classes. Unfortunately, at this time, you have been removed from the February class and placed in our pool.“
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Old 12-21-2023, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by VisionWings View Post
“With our newly announced out and back schedule, our operation has become increasingly more efficient.

While we're happy the new model is working so well and has been well received by our crews, it has in turn reduced the size of our new hire classes. Unfortunately, at this time, you have been removed from the February class and placed in our pool.“
lol, well received by our crews!?
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Old 12-21-2023, 11:56 AM
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lol, well received by our crews!?

Yeah that’s not true 😂 I can’t tell you the amount of people I’ve talked to that said if this sticks they are headed out the door with the first call from someone else.
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Old 12-21-2023, 12:22 PM
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This is kind of upsetting. Not good at all. I guess this means they've determined that with the new business model less crews per airplane are needed? So, attrition no longer matters for awhile? I guess upgrades will slow down even more.
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Old 12-21-2023, 12:34 PM
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This is kind of upsetting. Not good at all. I guess this means they've determined that with the new business model less crews per airplane are needed? So, attrition no longer matters for awhile? I guess upgrades will slow down even more.
attrition has been light this month but in reality that should be expected. Who wants to sit in new hire class during the holidays. That letter is one lie after another, they are being short sighted by the low attrition this month or it’s yet another month of extremely poor management in the training dept. I’m guessing a little of both
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Old 12-21-2023, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragonslayer69 View Post
This is kind of upsetting. Not got at all. I guess this means they've determined that with the new business model less crews per airplane are needed? So, attrition no longer matters for awhile? I guess upgrades will slow down even more.
Sucks now but in the long run I see this as a win win. More bases means less commuting (and hopefully greater credit/duty ratio). Instead of the inefficient 10hr 2 day that credits 7 hrs day 1 then 3 hours day 2, there will be more 5.5/6/6.5+ hr 1 day turns. More credit/day equals more days off. The company saves from less crews per plane and less hotel costs.

Transitioning will be painful but once in place will be better IMO when there are bases in 15-20 different cities (Baltimore, Cleveland, Raleigh, Charlotte, Cincy, Chicago, San Juan and maybe even San Fran, Fort Myers or Detroit).
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Old 12-21-2023, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by VisionWings View Post
“With our newly announced out and back schedule, our operation has become increasingly more efficient.

While we're happy the new model is working so well and has been well received by our crews, it has in turn reduced the size of our new hire classes. Unfortunately, at this time, you have been removed from the February class and placed in our pool.“
It was my understanding that this new model is not yet fully implemented so I don't know what they mean by "working so well". Sorry to hear that you're back in the pool, doesn't make sense as we have new airplane deliveries in Q1 and a boat load of people leaving every month.
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Old 12-21-2023, 12:47 PM
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That is not encouraging at all. I have a signed class date for March, and am headed to Denver for compliance in mid-Jan. Wondering if those who got the email for the Feb class date were in similar boats or not. I signed on in June.. Not super enthused here.
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Old 12-21-2023, 12:57 PM
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What is this going to do to upgrades? That is the last weak thread keeping me here.
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Old 12-21-2023, 12:58 PM
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That is not encouraging at all. I have a signed class date for March, and am headed to Denver for compliance in mid-Jan. Wondering if those who got the email for the Feb class date were in similar boats or not. I signed on in June.. Not super enthused here.
Welcome to aviation. Good news is we are still hiring but just a reduced amount it would seem.

Anybody have an update for the class size that started the 18th? With only 16 spots on the bid sheet I would be surprised if it was more than 20.

While it’s very early yet we are starting to see some trends. F9, NK, UPS, FDX slowing or no hiring. I’m sure there are others.
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