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Old 10-30-2023, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tallpilot View Post
Ryan Air pilots pay for their own training. Good luck bringing that back to the US.
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Old 10-30-2023, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tallpilot View Post
Ryan Air pilots pay for their own training. Good luck bringing that back to the US.
Most American pilots pay about 100k for their training before they get to an airline. Regardless, that’s not what is being discussed when comparing the two. Read the article.



Are we surprised? This has been mentioned many times and the many bases opened have all pointed in that direction for a couple years now. I agree with a previous poster though that it’s such boring flying. Now we get to chose if we want 4AM shows or Midnight finishes.

The other question mark that has already been mentioned. The airplanes can do day turns all day long but the crew may not be able to. Unless we go to shorter legs and tons of connections we should still have more overnights than the airplanes need to have.
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Old 10-30-2023, 03:30 PM
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Take a Ryan Air flight for an hour or two and you can access many different countries. In the US it takes 4-5 hours to travel across just the United States. Connecting the west coast and east coast can’t be done in a day turn in many cases. I guess direct flight trans cons won’t happen anymore.
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Old 10-30-2023, 03:45 PM
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"Frontier will base aircraft at specific airports, and then 90%+ of the time, those planes will fly back to the same base each night."
Planes, not pilots. Let's say there is a PHX-MCO turn. One leg can be done by pilot A, second one by pilot B. Plane returns to base, pilot stays overnight.
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Originally Posted by cathulu90 View Post
"Frontier will base aircraft at specific airports, and then 90%+ of the time, those planes will fly back to the same base each night."
Planes, not pilots. Let's say there is a PHX-MCO turn. One leg can be done by pilot A, second one by pilot B. Plane returns to base, pilot stays overnight.
or...

Pilot returns dead heading in the back, to "home base."

No company hotel costs for Pilots needed
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or...

Pilot returns dead heading in the back, to "home base."

No company hotel costs for Pilots needed
So with that, we will just DH out on the flight and the company will pay us double or triple the cost of a hotel for that leg just to fly it back?

There has to be a hotel somewhere I am pretty sure?
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Originally Posted by spooldup View Post
So with that, we will just DH out on the flight and the company will pay us double or triple the cost of a hotel for that leg just to fly it back?

There has to be a hotel somewhere I am pretty sure?
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Old 10-30-2023, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bronteroc View Post
Not only boring as heck and no variety but once they downsize/close your base and displace you, you’re a commuter again
Obviously displacements could happen, but I highly doubt we will see any base closures again. You can't fly day trips if you close bases
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Old 10-30-2023, 09:18 PM
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What do you all think about the possibility of virtual bases? Mainly made up of all Frontiers focus cities? That would be an interesting twist?
I should say, add the victual's to the already permanent bases. Course nothing is permanent around here.
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These threads are the exact reason BB is a bad example of leadership. Nobody has any idea what he means and he leaves it up to everyone to just imagine what he might be planning. Even upper management probably doesn’t know the game plan. These threads shouldn’t exist because it should have been made clear what the plan is and how we are going to get there and how it will affect everyone.
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