The company was upset we brought up the fact they have a bad history about continuously lying to us. That part was funny. Anyways NDAs are standard practice in negotiations but they are clearly laid out, ie. giving sensitive company material and not sharing it. The company is trying to twist that fact and have the union sign a blanket NDA covering anything and everything. They want to control the narrative that negotiations are going smoothly without the union being able to refute it.

NDA's are sometimes used as a Union busting tactic. They try to restrict the union from keeping its members informed. The company tries to structure the NDA such that the union can't say anything or they're in violation of the NDA. Whenever the union finally releases any information to the pilots, the Company cries foul and then sues or threatens to sue the Union, further distracting everyone from the pathetic progress being made in actual negotiations. When the union is threatened by the company, they further restrict communications which adds to the rank and file frustration.

My take on the subject is I wouldn't sign an NDA because I don't need any secret or proprietary information from the company. I'm negotiating Pilot pay, not applying for a consulting position with the company. Pilots (especially at Frontier) are just a commodity. We're really no different than the fuel supplier or the Diet Coke supplier. Our cost to the company doesn't depend on the company's business plan or secret business decisions. It's based on the market for pilots.

Well said friend.

Wanting a blanket NDA is right on par with the company's draconian sick leave treatment.....
next time a sick call is made will be exactly when the FARs require me to verify that I am fit for duty, not a minute before, then off to see the doc.

****ing off the pax that put food on our plates. Real mature.

hey koolaid!