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Originally Posted by HairyCannonball
(Post 3726865)
I would like to take this golden opportunity to welcome ya'all to Great Lakes and Southern Regional Airways......
😂 outta business in 2025 |
Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3726693)
Wow.. The company isn't messing around.
When does CLE open? Was it March? I think that we will see a small displacement from every base to open Chicago and Cincinnati. I don't know how you staff two new bases that are served by every domicile without shrinking all the other bases. I would expect to see a small displacement from PHL, MCO, TPA, DEN at the least. The whole thing is sad I really though when I came to F9 I woulden't be forced to bounce around the Country like this any more. I just got bounced out of Vegas and now it looks like soon I will be Bounced out of MCO. Feels like I am running out of gas with no where to land. |
Originally Posted by av8nallday
(Post 3726866)
😂 outta business in 2025
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Originally Posted by Dragonslayer69
(Post 3726827)
I think that NDA they tried to get union to sign says everything I need to know about the company.
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Originally Posted by pilot124
(Post 3728861)
What's the deal with this NDA? Is this standard practice in negotiations? The company is sending out emails practically crying about how the union won't sign this. 1. Maybe they don't want the pilots to know that they have NO interesting in passing an industry standard contract. If the pilots think we're negotiating in good faith, they won't leave. 2 They really want to get something ironed out quickly to stop the legacies from stealing our newly trained pilots. 3. They want an NDA to protect their financials from an upcoming merger. 4. All smoke and mirrors like usual.
Given what I’ve been told about all previous negotiations number 1 and 4 sound about right 😂 |
Originally Posted by pilot124
(Post 3728861)
What's the deal with this NDA? Is this standard practice in negotiations? The company is sending out emails practically crying about how the union won't sign this. 1. Maybe they don't want the pilots to know that they have NO interesting in passing an industry standard contract. If the pilots think we're negotiating in good faith, they won't leave. 2 They really want to get something ironed out quickly to stop the legacies from stealing our newly trained pilots. 3. They want an NDA to protect their financials from an upcoming merger. 4. All smoke and mirrors like usual.
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Originally Posted by av8nallday
(Post 3728870)
Given what I’ve been told about all previous negotiations number 1 and 4 sound about right 😂
Definitely 1 & 4 based on everything else that happens here on a daily basis. |
Originally Posted by Dragonslayer69
(Post 3728877)
We have to wait for Allegiant's contract to see what we might get.
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3725079)
I mostly agree with the two above posts.
CVG and RDU do seem like logical next bases. LGA will be entirely dependent on the merger so that's an unknown for now. I can see the company wanting to follow the Allegiant model to an extent, the question is how much? I wonder how many domiciles Allegiant has and how many destinations they serve? Also, I wonder how thin their reserve coverage is in small bases? If you rely on the premium folder maybe you can get away with very little reserve coverage? In my mind, the only reason not to have 15 domiciles is having to carry 15 sets of reserves. But if almost all the trips are day turns, getting them covered is much easier. Calling out for a day turn vs a 3 or 4 day trip that criss-crosses the whole country is much easier for the company to cover. Or you just offer up a premium trip to cover the sick call one day and you don't need to use any reserves vs the 3 or 4 day sick call that frequently uses 2 reserves to cover. It's pretty easy to see how recovering from a disruption is much easier. I just didn't think they ever cared about that lol. All of this discussion makes me wonder why the big airlines don't do more domiciles? We have domiciles that are dwarfed by the number of legacies overnighting and yet its not a base for them. reserve in Florida is the opposite: basically h*ll. We have bases at six airports and reserves get jerked around in FL to cover the flying. small bases make the company over staff on reserves which is why the QOL is so good for reserve in small bases. we also fly way less than you all do. Utilization is nearly double at F9 than G4. Anyway just came across this and thought I’d respond to a couple of your queries. |
Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3728908)
Do you have any insight on what's going on with Allegiants negotiations?
up until two weeks ago we the union was telling us how bad negotiations are going, but then a surprise union election was scheduled and now we are being told negotiations are going great. |
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