Spirit/Frontier Merger (Again)

Reply Subscribe

Page 19 of 43

« First

Last »

Thread Tools

Search this Thread

11-19-2024 | 03:19 PM

#181

AutoBrksMedium

FO For Life

Joined: Jan 2024

Posts: 327

Likes: 0

What will the seniority advantage be for Frontier pilots? How does career expectations apply in this case? I would think Frontier would get a better seniority advantage merging with a bankrupt airline.

11-19-2024 | 03:43 PM

#182

Born2FlyAv8R

Line Holder

Joined: Mar 2020

Posts: 302

Likes: 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutoBrksMedium

read the policy - I would say for ACTIVE pilots it’s anyone’s guess. But, career expectations is similar - narrow body low cost vs narrow body low cost. The bankruptcy doesn’t have anything to do with career expectations - frontier has also filed for bankruptcy in the past, but the career expectations of frontier pilots is good. The alpa policy talks about all of this - so as far as career expectations is concerned, both are low cost narrow body carriers- they both have similar career expectations when it comes to the active pilot list

11-19-2024 | 04:15 PM

#183

AutoBrksMedium

FO For Life

Joined: Jan 2024

Posts: 327

Likes: 0

Spirit hasn't been hiring for quite some time. So, if we integrate based on DOH I could be junior to every Spirit FO? That kinda blows.

11-19-2024 | 04:54 PM

#184

dracir1

Line Holder

Joined: Feb 2014

Posts: 1,919

Likes: 93

From: Lineholder

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutoBrksMedium

Spirit hasn't been hiring for quite some time. So, if we integrate based on DOH I could be junior to every Spirit FO? That kinda blows.

As you should be. Not trying to be an a$$ but seniority is seniority.

I'm a little suprised you would WANT to be senior to guys hired before you...

11-19-2024 | 05:11 PM

#185

fcoolaiddrinker

Gets Weekends Off

Joined: Dec 2012

Posts: 2,716

Likes: 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by dracir1

As you should be. Not trying to be an a$$ but seniority is seniority.

I'm a little suprised you would WANT to be senior to guys hired before you...

That’s not what you mentioned a few posts ago. Do you understand the difference between relative and doh integration? Apparently not.

11-19-2024 | 05:19 PM

#186

fcoolaiddrinker

Gets Weekends Off

Joined: Dec 2012

Posts: 2,716

Likes: 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutoBrksMedium

Spirit hasn't been hiring for quite some time. So, if we integrate based on DOH I could be junior to every Spirit FO? That kinda blows.

Straight doh with nk if it were to ever happen near term would be highly unlikely. I would spend zero time worrying about it.

11-19-2024 | 05:22 PM

#187

Stayontarget

Almost there

Joined: Apr 2021

Posts: 1,943

Likes: 98

Quote:

Originally Posted by Born2FlyAv8R

i’m pretty sure no one believes that the furloughed spirit pilots would be senior to the active frontier pilots in an SLI

That would be my hope as well but it wasn’t explicitly clear from that post. I believe they cleared up their position later.

11-19-2024 | 05:33 PM

#188

AutoBrksMedium

FO For Life

Joined: Jan 2024

Posts: 327

Likes: 0

Quote:

Originally Posted by dracir1

As you should be. Not trying to be an a$$ but seniority is seniority.

I'm a little suprised you would WANT to be senior to guys hired before you...

I guess I’ll take my 2+ years at F9 and 4 years at OO and head on over to Delta. Direct entry captain here I come. Seniority is seniority.

11-19-2024 | 05:40 PM

#189

Tranquility

Line Holder

Joined: Sep 2014

Posts: 1,686

Likes: 19

From: Da Bus, Left

To my understanding, any furloughed Spirit pilot would be junior to any active Frontier pilot on the merger date.

Moot point as we are merging with Atlas. 🤪

11-19-2024 | 05:50 PM

#190

Born2FlyAv8R

Line Holder

Joined: Mar 2020

Posts: 302

Likes: 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutoBrksMedium

I guess I’ll take my 2+ years at F9 and 4 years at OO and head on over to Delta. Direct entry captain here I come. Seniority is seniority.

I guess based off of that attitude, you would politely turn down the chance at spirit pay scale or direct entry contributions being used to bolster the pay of both Airlines in a merger as well?