Originally Posted by PlumbaFlo (Post 3921282)

I get that stuff like Cold WXR, SATCOM, datalink, Sirius WX, Wi-Fi, profit sharing all costs money. But do those things really save the company anything?

A simple texting system might actually help save. Fewer calls to scheduling means less time spent on the phones and maybe even fewer schedulers needed just to handle basic stuff like people calling in sick or asking to be released.

Yeah, there’s some cost to set it up, but if it makes things smoother for us and cheaper for them, it’s something we could push for with the union and maybe get something in return. Other airlines are already doing this so it’s worth a serious look.

Originally Posted by PlumbaFlo (Post 3921282)

I get that stuff like Cold WXR, SATCOM, datalink, Sirius WX, Wi-Fi, profit sharing all costs money. But do those things really save the company anything?

Upgraded wx tools save the company money when we avoid delays, optimize routing, and even avoid damaging phenomena such as embedded hail and lightning strikes.

Wi-Fi attracts those customers who would fly F9 but for the fact we don't have wi-fi. Once they do, it boosts revenue.

Profit sharing helps retain employees and thus reduces training costs. It also incentivizes employees to help boost overall profit because we all get a slice of the proverbial pie.

Originally Posted by ginntonic (Post 3921284)

That will NEVER happen. We are owned by an investment private equity firm. The majority anyways. They aren’t in the business of giving out profits unless it to themselves. So unfortunately it’s a pipe dream.

Furthermore, I’d much rather have my money now then hope for any type of profit sharing. Industry rate now! That is something that could be promised but could easily be manipulated.

Originally Posted by ginntonic (Post 3921284)

That will NEVER happen. We are owned by an investment private equity firm. The majority anyways. They aren’t in the business of giving out profits unless it to themselves. So unfortunately it’s a pipe dream.

Originally Posted by ginntonic (Post 3921284)

That will NEVER happen.

Originally Posted by av8nallday (Post 3921355)

As far as profit sharing, I disagree with you that it will "never" happen. Instead, I'm more Lloyd Christmas saying there's a chance. :-)

Originally Posted by av8nallday (Post 3921355)

I wasn't making a claim as to what will or will not happen. Only responding to Plumba who was asked how the mentioned measures save the company money. I listed a few ways those items might save some cash.

As far as profit sharing, I disagree with you that it will "never" happen. Instead, I'm more Lloyd Christmas saying there's a chance. :-)

Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 3921191)

We like to make things more complicated around here....

Luckily, it seems like they do want to update stuff such as going to electronic logbooks (in the process of converting) and hopefully that means more 2025 type tech instead of what we have now...

Do you know how embarrassing it is for me to have to ask ATC for updates on weather and what the storms look like when every other airline has internet weather/XM weather onboard their aircraft?

One day we will catch up. maybe.

I really miss WSI from my regional.

Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3921386)

I think it's possible to negotiate profit sharing but not just as icing on the cake. Profit sharing would go against upper managements deeply held beliefs and values. To get them to sign off on that, i think we would likely be giving up something significant.

I don't see it being a worthy goal. I think it would cost us too much elsewhere. Give me industry standard pay, increases to retirement contributions and better benefits and let them keep the profit they can't seem to make.