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DrJekyll MrHyde 05-08-2026 11:15 PM

Pedestrian struck on runway in DEN
 
Sounds like a planned suicide. FFT4345 struck the pedestrian on 17L takeoff roll and subsequently aborted takeoff with an engine fire, smoke in the cabin and passenger evacuation of nearly full 321neo.

https://youtu.be/hLyImKIIoB8?si=0ggeAJ-6rkDQZWZ8

HwkrPlt 05-08-2026 11:27 PM

Geeze!

....

loganeich 05-09-2026 02:53 AM

I feel bad for the crew for having to go through such a traumatic event. Good job on the rejection and evacuation.

DumboDrop 05-09-2026 04:45 AM


Smoke in the cabin...
Anyone ever ingest a bird and smell it cooking?

​​​​​​​Puke 🤮

ReserveCA 05-09-2026 06:21 AM

Wow
talk about FAFO gross

Skylarking 05-09-2026 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by DumboDrop (Post 4033680)
Anyone ever ingest a bird and smell it cooking?

Puke 🤮

Ingested some birds on takeoff roll once in a 737. Smells like fried chicken but nasty.

JackReacher 05-09-2026 08:04 AM

Keep an eye out for the new “Shredder 1 Arrival” into KDEN.

at6d 05-09-2026 08:51 AM

Sorry for those folks and good job crew. Why some choose to go out in ways like this is beyond me.

dracir1 05-09-2026 10:02 AM

Suicide by airliner?

DumboDrop 05-09-2026 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by dracir1 (Post 4033790)
Suicide by airliner?


Maybe he was pushing tin too hard.

rickair7777 05-09-2026 11:46 AM

Sucky day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOBCsChHJes

Aviato 05-09-2026 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4033842)

https://x.com/i/status/2053105042173960311

Video taken by passenger(s) during the collision and after evacuation.

Dooder 05-09-2026 12:21 PM

I wonder if the deceased had any idea of the potential for a mass casualty event...

Bahamasflyer 05-09-2026 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4033842)

For Gods sake Why aren’t the Feds criminally charging some of these people w reckless endangerment when they take their luggage w them down the slides??? Their faces are clearly visible most of the time

Air Stang 7 05-09-2026 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer (Post 4033868)
For Gods sake Why aren’t the Feds criminally charging some of these people w reckless endangerment when they take their luggage w them down the slides??? Their faces are clearly visible most of the time

Maybe it's time for crews to just start ripping their bags out of their hands and throwing them on the seats.

Bahamasflyer 05-09-2026 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Air Stang 7 (Post 4033869)
Maybe it's time for crews to just start ripping their bags out of their hands and throwing them on the seats.

I would ABSOLUTELY do that in a heartbeat as a pax if I witnessed someone be that stupid

compressor 05-09-2026 05:44 PM

They absolutely need to start fining people who bring their bags down the slides. At least put them on the no fly list for the future.

The701Express 05-09-2026 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Air Stang 7 (Post 4033869)
Maybe it's time for crews to just start ripping their bags out of their hands and throwing them on the seats.

Crews have done that before. Had an FA in my crashpad years ago who told me about an evacuation due to an engine fire and smoke in the cabin. She said they were throwing passenger's bags all over the place and almost pushing people down the slides. I saw pictures of the cabin, it looked like a bomb went off.

BoilerWings 05-10-2026 07:00 AM

[QUOTE=The701Express;4034024]Crews have done that before. Had an FA in my crashpad years ago who told me about an evacuation due to an engine fire and smoke in the cabin. She said they were throwing passenger's bags all over the place and almost pushing people down the slides. I saw pictures of the cabin, it looked like a bomb went off.

there should be an automatic locking mechanism that locks bins below 10,000ft. Make it impossible for bins to open.

BoilerWings 05-10-2026 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by The701Express (Post 4034024)
Crews have done that before. Had an FA in my crashpad years ago who told me about an evacuation due to an engine fire and smoke in the cabin. She said they were throwing passenger's bags all over the place and almost pushing people down the slides. I saw pictures of the cabin, it looked like a bomb went off.

There should be an automatic locking mechanism that locks bins below 10,000ft. Makes it impossible to open them during an evacuation.


Originally Posted by Dooder (Post 4033854)
I wonder if the deceased had any idea of the potential for a mass casualty event...

It’s possible that was their exact intent, making it an act of terrorism. They were not on that runway by accident.

shrsailplanes 05-10-2026 03:14 PM

Were there any injuries? Any lawsuits pending yet?

rickair7777 05-10-2026 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerWings (Post 4034173)
There should be an automatic locking mechanism that locks bins below 10,000ft. Makes it impossible to open them during an evacuation.

Agree, that's been obvious for a while. Have to except the bins with emergency gear of course.



Originally Posted by BoilerWings (Post 4034173)
It’s possible that was their exact intent, making it an act of terrorism. They were not on that runway by accident.

More likely just suicide, or mental health.

Or maybe just passing through and really bad at frogger. Used to be common enough for illegals to try to cross airports near the border.

54baldwin 05-10-2026 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4034296)
Agree, that's been obvious for a while. Have to except the bins with emergency gear of course.




More likely just suicide, or mental health.


Or maybe just passing through and really bad at frogger. Used to be common enough for illegals to try to cross airports near the border.

Should be treated as domestic terrorism. Could have easily been a mass casualty event.

dracir1 05-10-2026 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by 54baldwin (Post 4034311)
Should be treated as domestic terrorism. Could have easily been a mass casualty event.

I suppose the investigation will reveal a LOT - as in, who dropped the guy off (or did he leave his car parked by the side of the road)? How did he time the run to coincide w/ the incursion? Was there any sort of instrument/weapon/etc in his hand or does it appear to just be an attempted suicide?

I'm often somewhat hesitant to lump simple silliness and/or mental illness into the terrorism bucket but this one is interesting...

54baldwin 05-10-2026 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4034296)
Agree, that's been obvious for a while. Have to except the bins with emergency gear of course.




More likely just suicide, or mental health.

Or maybe just passing through and really bad at frogger. Used to be common enough for illegals to try to cross airports near the border.


Originally Posted by dracir1 (Post 4034376)
I suppose the investigation will reveal a LOT - as in, who dropped the guy off (or did he leave his car parked by the side of the road)? How did he time the run to coincide w/ the incursion? Was there any sort of instrument/weapon/etc in his hand or does it appear to just be an attempted suicide?

I'm often somewhat hesitant to lump simple silliness and/or mental illness into the terrorism bucket but this one is interesting...

doesn't matter, this should be lumped as the same category as a mass suicide event. if he was successful, this is NO DIFFERENT than a German wings crash. Im kinda shocked our management hasn't pushed this. I would for sure sue his entire bloodline and anything and everything I could.

N152SY 05-10-2026 10:06 PM

The infrared video is very ominous. Literally just taking a casual stroll on 17L

TiredSoul 05-10-2026 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by loganeich (Post 4033659)
I feel bad for the crew for having to go through such a traumatic event. Good job on the rejection and evacuation.

Not on the evacuation, no.
They should have never evacuated on the right side.

Brickhut 05-10-2026 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 4034402)
Not on the evacuation, no.
They should have never evacuated on the right side.

231 souls on a narrowbody filling with smoke. How do the 2 to 4 of you freight dogs brief the evac?

DogPit 05-11-2026 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 4034402)
Not on the evacuation, no.
They should have never evacuated on the right side.

Check out this blowhard.

Stayontarget 05-11-2026 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by 54baldwin (Post 4034393)
doesn't matter, this should be lumped as the same category as a mass suicide event. if he was successful, this is NO DIFFERENT than a German wings crash. Im kinda shocked our management hasn't pushed this. I would for sure sue his entire bloodline and anything and everything I could.

Have they identified them yet?

rickair7777 05-11-2026 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by 54baldwin (Post 4034311)
Should be treated as domestic terrorism. Could have easily been a mass casualty event.


Originally Posted by dracir1 (Post 4034376)
I suppose the investigation will reveal a LOT - as in, who dropped the guy off (or did he leave his car parked by the side of the road)? How did he time the run to coincide w/ the incursion? Was there any sort of instrument/weapon/etc in his hand or does it appear to just be an attempted suicide?

I'm often somewhat hesitant to lump simple silliness and/or mental illness into the terrorism bucket but this one is interesting...

Yes should be an investigation of course.

Not saying it's definitely not terrorism, it could be just a really lame attempt at that. A little bit of google would show you that pilots train routinely for V1 cuts :rolleyes:

Dooder 05-11-2026 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4034451)
A little bit of google would show you that pilots train routinely for V1 cuts :rolleyes:

It's more than a V1 cut or even a fire bell resulting in a V1 cut like we do in the sim.

We don't train for when the perpetrator (now well done) not only takes out the engine, but the fire bottle discharge nozzles was well.

I'm not saying that's what happened (we don't know yet), but what if it did? Bipedal ingestion -> engine fire -> ????

dracir1 05-11-2026 07:41 AM

So, does this count against our safety record (for no casualties)?

54baldwin 05-11-2026 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by dracir1 (Post 4034470)
So, does this count against our safety record (for no casualties)?

I think so. Unfortunate all because someone didn’t have the balls to use a gun like a normal person

Stayontarget 05-11-2026 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by 54baldwin (Post 4034482)
I think so. Unfortunate all because someone didn’t have the balls to use a gun like a normal person

I don’t think so. I thought SWA considered their first person lost being the unfortunate soul half way out a window vs the kid in MDW.

rickair7777 05-11-2026 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 4034507)
I don’t think so. I thought SWA considered their first person lost being the unfortunate soul half way out a window vs the kid in MDW.

The kid should have counted, 100% their fault. The guy on the runway should not count, 100% not F9's fault and likely intentional.... that's not an "accident".

Stayontarget 05-11-2026 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4034535)
The kid should have counted, 100% their fault. The guy on the runway should not count, 100% not F9's fault and likely intentional.... that's not an "accident".

That is my assessment as well

Name User 05-11-2026 10:58 AM

Interesting read from a pax perspective, not only the initial accident but also the followup. Makes you think about stuffing your pockets with wallet, keys, cell phone, etc.

Passenger Experience of Frontier Crash : r/aviation

Leslie Chow 05-11-2026 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by 54baldwin (Post 4034482)
I think so. Unfortunate all because someone didn’t have the balls to use a gun like a normal person


I am not convinced this was a suicide attempt.

If you watch the IR surveillance video from DIA, the guy is casually walking across the runway...no sense of urgency...not running towards the plane. In my opinion, to do so at night and hit either the engine or the landing gear, he would have to have an extraordinary sense of timing and depth perception. Granted, I have zero idea, whatsoever, what the cone of danger is for sucking in a human on that engine at takeoff power. I wonder if he (she) was just stoned out of his mind and wandering around the airport or was a thrill-seeker who wanted to see how close he could get to an airplane rolling for takeoff (kind of like playing chicken with a freight train, which, believe it or not, was actually a thing where I grew up).

54baldwin 05-11-2026 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Leslie Chow (Post 4034676)
I am not convinced this was a suicide attempt.

If you watch the IR surveillance video from DIA, the guy is casually walking across the runway...no sense of urgency...not running towards the plane. In my opinion, to do so at night and hit either the engine or the landing gear, he would have to have an extraordinary sense of timing and depth perception. Granted, I have zero idea, whatsoever, what the cone of danger is for sucking in a human on that engine at takeoff power. I wonder if he (she) was just stoned out of his mind and wandering around the airport or was a thrill-seeker who wanted to see how close he could get to an airplane rolling for takeoff (kind of like playing chicken with a freight train, which, believe it or not, was actually a thing where I grew up).

Many suicide train deaths display an attitude in CCTV video with no sene of urgency, and what appears zero situational awareness. But they know what they're doing.


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