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Pedestrian struck on runway in DEN
Sounds like a planned suicide. FFT4345 struck the pedestrian on 17L takeoff roll and subsequently aborted takeoff with an engine fire, smoke in the cabin and passenger evacuation of nearly full 321neo.
https://youtu.be/hLyImKIIoB8?si=0ggeAJ-6rkDQZWZ8 |
Geeze!
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I feel bad for the crew for having to go through such a traumatic event. Good job on the rejection and evacuation.
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Smoke in the cabin... Puke 🤮 |
Wow
talk about FAFO gross |
Originally Posted by DumboDrop
(Post 4033680)
Anyone ever ingest a bird and smell it cooking?
Puke 🤮 |
Keep an eye out for the new “Shredder 1 Arrival” into KDEN.
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Sorry for those folks and good job crew. Why some choose to go out in ways like this is beyond me.
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Suicide by airliner?
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Originally Posted by dracir1
(Post 4033790)
Suicide by airliner?
Maybe he was pushing tin too hard. |
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 4033842)
Video taken by passenger(s) during the collision and after evacuation. |
I wonder if the deceased had any idea of the potential for a mass casualty event...
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 4033842)
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
(Post 4033868)
For Gods sake Why aren’t the Feds criminally charging some of these people w reckless endangerment when they take their luggage w them down the slides??? Their faces are clearly visible most of the time
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Originally Posted by Air Stang 7
(Post 4033869)
Maybe it's time for crews to just start ripping their bags out of their hands and throwing them on the seats.
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They absolutely need to start fining people who bring their bags down the slides. At least put them on the no fly list for the future.
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Originally Posted by Air Stang 7
(Post 4033869)
Maybe it's time for crews to just start ripping their bags out of their hands and throwing them on the seats.
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[QUOTE=The701Express;4034024]Crews have done that before. Had an FA in my crashpad years ago who told me about an evacuation due to an engine fire and smoke in the cabin. She said they were throwing passenger's bags all over the place and almost pushing people down the slides. I saw pictures of the cabin, it looked like a bomb went off.
there should be an automatic locking mechanism that locks bins below 10,000ft. Make it impossible for bins to open. |
Originally Posted by The701Express
(Post 4034024)
Crews have done that before. Had an FA in my crashpad years ago who told me about an evacuation due to an engine fire and smoke in the cabin. She said they were throwing passenger's bags all over the place and almost pushing people down the slides. I saw pictures of the cabin, it looked like a bomb went off.
Originally Posted by Dooder
(Post 4033854)
I wonder if the deceased had any idea of the potential for a mass casualty event...
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Were there any injuries? Any lawsuits pending yet?
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Originally Posted by BoilerWings
(Post 4034173)
There should be an automatic locking mechanism that locks bins below 10,000ft. Makes it impossible to open them during an evacuation.
Originally Posted by BoilerWings
(Post 4034173)
It’s possible that was their exact intent, making it an act of terrorism. They were not on that runway by accident.
Or maybe just passing through and really bad at frogger. Used to be common enough for illegals to try to cross airports near the border. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 4034296)
Agree, that's been obvious for a while. Have to except the bins with emergency gear of course.
More likely just suicide, or mental health. Or maybe just passing through and really bad at frogger. Used to be common enough for illegals to try to cross airports near the border. |
Originally Posted by 54baldwin
(Post 4034311)
Should be treated as domestic terrorism. Could have easily been a mass casualty event.
I'm often somewhat hesitant to lump simple silliness and/or mental illness into the terrorism bucket but this one is interesting... |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 4034296)
Agree, that's been obvious for a while. Have to except the bins with emergency gear of course.
More likely just suicide, or mental health. Or maybe just passing through and really bad at frogger. Used to be common enough for illegals to try to cross airports near the border.
Originally Posted by dracir1
(Post 4034376)
I suppose the investigation will reveal a LOT - as in, who dropped the guy off (or did he leave his car parked by the side of the road)? How did he time the run to coincide w/ the incursion? Was there any sort of instrument/weapon/etc in his hand or does it appear to just be an attempted suicide?
I'm often somewhat hesitant to lump simple silliness and/or mental illness into the terrorism bucket but this one is interesting... |
The infrared video is very ominous. Literally just taking a casual stroll on 17L
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Originally Posted by loganeich
(Post 4033659)
I feel bad for the crew for having to go through such a traumatic event. Good job on the rejection and evacuation.
They should have never evacuated on the right side. |
Originally Posted by TiredSoul
(Post 4034402)
Not on the evacuation, no.
They should have never evacuated on the right side. |
Originally Posted by TiredSoul
(Post 4034402)
Not on the evacuation, no.
They should have never evacuated on the right side. |
Originally Posted by 54baldwin
(Post 4034393)
doesn't matter, this should be lumped as the same category as a mass suicide event. if he was successful, this is NO DIFFERENT than a German wings crash. Im kinda shocked our management hasn't pushed this. I would for sure sue his entire bloodline and anything and everything I could.
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Originally Posted by 54baldwin
(Post 4034311)
Should be treated as domestic terrorism. Could have easily been a mass casualty event.
Originally Posted by dracir1
(Post 4034376)
I suppose the investigation will reveal a LOT - as in, who dropped the guy off (or did he leave his car parked by the side of the road)? How did he time the run to coincide w/ the incursion? Was there any sort of instrument/weapon/etc in his hand or does it appear to just be an attempted suicide?
I'm often somewhat hesitant to lump simple silliness and/or mental illness into the terrorism bucket but this one is interesting... Not saying it's definitely not terrorism, it could be just a really lame attempt at that. A little bit of google would show you that pilots train routinely for V1 cuts :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 4034451)
A little bit of google would show you that pilots train routinely for V1 cuts :rolleyes:
We don't train for when the perpetrator (now well done) not only takes out the engine, but the fire bottle discharge nozzles was well. I'm not saying that's what happened (we don't know yet), but what if it did? Bipedal ingestion -> engine fire -> ???? |
So, does this count against our safety record (for no casualties)?
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Originally Posted by dracir1
(Post 4034470)
So, does this count against our safety record (for no casualties)?
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Originally Posted by 54baldwin
(Post 4034482)
I think so. Unfortunate all because someone didn’t have the balls to use a gun like a normal person
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Originally Posted by Stayontarget
(Post 4034507)
I don’t think so. I thought SWA considered their first person lost being the unfortunate soul half way out a window vs the kid in MDW.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 4034535)
The kid should have counted, 100% their fault. The guy on the runway should not count, 100% not F9's fault and likely intentional.... that's not an "accident".
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Interesting read from a pax perspective, not only the initial accident but also the followup. Makes you think about stuffing your pockets with wallet, keys, cell phone, etc.
Passenger Experience of Frontier Crash : r/aviation |
Originally Posted by 54baldwin
(Post 4034482)
I think so. Unfortunate all because someone didn’t have the balls to use a gun like a normal person
I am not convinced this was a suicide attempt. If you watch the IR surveillance video from DIA, the guy is casually walking across the runway...no sense of urgency...not running towards the plane. In my opinion, to do so at night and hit either the engine or the landing gear, he would have to have an extraordinary sense of timing and depth perception. Granted, I have zero idea, whatsoever, what the cone of danger is for sucking in a human on that engine at takeoff power. I wonder if he (she) was just stoned out of his mind and wandering around the airport or was a thrill-seeker who wanted to see how close he could get to an airplane rolling for takeoff (kind of like playing chicken with a freight train, which, believe it or not, was actually a thing where I grew up). |
Originally Posted by Leslie Chow
(Post 4034676)
I am not convinced this was a suicide attempt.
If you watch the IR surveillance video from DIA, the guy is casually walking across the runway...no sense of urgency...not running towards the plane. In my opinion, to do so at night and hit either the engine or the landing gear, he would have to have an extraordinary sense of timing and depth perception. Granted, I have zero idea, whatsoever, what the cone of danger is for sucking in a human on that engine at takeoff power. I wonder if he (she) was just stoned out of his mind and wandering around the airport or was a thrill-seeker who wanted to see how close he could get to an airplane rolling for takeoff (kind of like playing chicken with a freight train, which, believe it or not, was actually a thing where I grew up). |
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