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#1021
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The growth rumors being spread by Seigel are significant. I don't believe anything he says but he is suggesting 40+ new airplanes in the next five years. We have the orders with the NEO but original speculation was mostly replacement. We will see what actually happens...
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#1025
Rumor is no significant increase in airframes until the IPO. They say IPO could be in 2 years.
Indigo doesn't want to spend a lot of their own money on airframes when they can wait for the IPO and have the shareholders pay for them.
Indigo doesn't want to spend a lot of their own money on airframes when they can wait for the IPO and have the shareholders pay for them.
#1026
Cross,
All kinds of rumors out there. With due respect to your sources, the math doesn't add up.
1. Indigo isn't paying for airframes; those on property in the next few years will be 'bargain' leases, which are complete tax write offs as operating expense. I'm sure NEOs will be leases as well.
2. Indigo's M.O. with Spirit was aggressive, steady growth as a tool to increase valuation
3. Current and forecast hiring is in line with the projections I heard last winter for a few more airframes this year (including the white tail in paint down at Goodyear right now), @10 next year prior to NEO deliveries.
4. How can we support all of the announced new flying with current airframes? I realize higher utilization is part of the model, but that will largely be accomplished via the increase in cdo's and redeyes.
Anyway, all conjecture at this point.
All kinds of rumors out there. With due respect to your sources, the math doesn't add up.
1. Indigo isn't paying for airframes; those on property in the next few years will be 'bargain' leases, which are complete tax write offs as operating expense. I'm sure NEOs will be leases as well.
2. Indigo's M.O. with Spirit was aggressive, steady growth as a tool to increase valuation
3. Current and forecast hiring is in line with the projections I heard last winter for a few more airframes this year (including the white tail in paint down at Goodyear right now), @10 next year prior to NEO deliveries.
4. How can we support all of the announced new flying with current airframes? I realize higher utilization is part of the model, but that will largely be accomplished via the increase in cdo's and redeyes.
Anyway, all conjecture at this point.
#1030
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
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Cross,
All kinds of rumors out there. With due respect to your sources, the math doesn't add up.
1. Indigo isn't paying for airframes; those on property in the next few years will be 'bargain' leases, which are complete tax write offs as operating expense. I'm sure NEOs will be leases as well.
2. Indigo's M.O. with Spirit was aggressive, steady growth as a tool to increase valuation
3. Current and forecast hiring is in line with the projections I heard last winter for a few more airframes this year (including the white tail in paint down at Goodyear right now), @10 next year prior to NEO deliveries.
4. How can we support all of the announced new flying with current airframes? I realize higher utilization is part of the model, but that will largely be accomplished via the increase in cdo's and redeyes.
Anyway, all conjecture at this point.
All kinds of rumors out there. With due respect to your sources, the math doesn't add up.
1. Indigo isn't paying for airframes; those on property in the next few years will be 'bargain' leases, which are complete tax write offs as operating expense. I'm sure NEOs will be leases as well.
2. Indigo's M.O. with Spirit was aggressive, steady growth as a tool to increase valuation
3. Current and forecast hiring is in line with the projections I heard last winter for a few more airframes this year (including the white tail in paint down at Goodyear right now), @10 next year prior to NEO deliveries.
4. How can we support all of the announced new flying with current airframes? I realize higher utilization is part of the model, but that will largely be accomplished via the increase in cdo's and redeyes.
Anyway, all conjecture at this point.
Surely there is an aviation financial buff out there that has an understanding of how they did this each time. That person I am not.
Anyone know? Care to share? Can we reverse engineer a likely playbook?
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