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Jpacheco 12-29-2016 01:44 PM
Interviews
 
Anyone that had a recent interview can PM me please
thank you

full of luv 12-29-2016 09:45 PM
Originally Posted by SpankysLadder (Post 2270330)
You're really underestimating the strength of the ULCC business model. Spirit did well during the downturn and so will Frontier. We don't have legacy costs, our neo's burn 16% less fuel, and we already have a 25+% profit margin. No one here is worried about our jobs come the next downturn, but we often comment about how quickly and deep the legacies will cut jobs. So yes, I'll bank on Spirit's success.
When you refer to "legacy costs", are you referring to the notion that practically the only thing that is substantially cheaper at the ULCC are employee wages. If so, then great job with the ULCC model, mission accomplished.

SpankysLadder 12-30-2016 07:16 AM
Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2271626)
When you refer to "legacy costs", are you referring to the notion that practically the only thing that is substantially cheaper at the ULCC are employee wages. If so, then great job with the ULCC model, mission accomplished.
Read my entire post. I'm not in favor of substandard pilot wages. When I speak of "legacy costs" I'm referring to the long term expense burdens that any legacy employer has. Whether it's GE, Boeing, or Southwest. Legacy costs are a squeeze on profit margin. We are a young company. That was my point.

Aero1900 12-30-2016 04:51 PM
Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2271626)
When you refer to "legacy costs", are you referring to the notion that practically the only thing that is substantially cheaper at the ULCC are employee wages. If so, then great job with the ULCC model, mission accomplished.
You know that's not true, right? All of our operating costs are lower than the big 3. Pilot compensation is lower of course, but so is everything else. United CASM is 12 cents/ mile, ours is 6 or less. That's half the cost per seat mile. You think that's only pilot compensation?

sab1250 12-30-2016 05:56 PM
The biggest reasons our costs are so much lower are our aircraft utilization (our planes fly 24/7), and aircraft configurations (319s seat 150, 320s seat 180, and 321s seat 230)...cheap employees are a VERY negligible cost. They can 100% afford to pay us $$$ and still turn extremely nice profits!

SFA320 12-30-2016 08:05 PM
Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 2272057)
You know that's not true, right? All of our operating costs are lower than the big 3. Pilot compensation is lower of course, but so is everything else. United CASM is 12 cents/ mile, ours is 6 or less. That's half the cost per seat mile. You think that's only pilot compensation?
Yes exactly, and as far as I understand pilot wages have a very little affect on CASM.

Qotsaautopilot 12-30-2016 09:58 PM
Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 2272057)
You know that's not true, right? All of our operating costs are lower than the big 3. Pilot compensation is lower of course, but so is everything else. United CASM is 12 cents/ mile, ours is 6 or less. That's half the cost per seat mile. You think that's only pilot compensation?
Our union at spirit has said an industry leading pilot contract would not take CASM above 6 cents. We are around 5.5 now I believe. Pilots certainly move the needle being the highest paid labor group but in the overall cost of running the airline it's a drop in the bucket.

chiefbrody 01-01-2017 02:50 PM
F9 Crew Base Assignment
 
When does F9 inform you of your base assignment after you've started training?
Does anyone know the base assignments for the last couple classes?

Thanks!

Jcabesa 01-01-2017 03:58 PM
Originally Posted by chiefbrody (Post 2272872)
When does F9 inform you of your base assignment after you've started training?
Does anyone know the base assignments for the last couple classes?

Thanks!
I think you find out approx three weeks into training. DEN is most junior with a couple of the most senior guys in each class getting awarded MCO right out of the gate if they bid for it. ORD seems to take a few more months to hold.

Xdashdriver 01-01-2017 04:02 PM
Originally Posted by chiefbrody (Post 2272872)
When does F9 inform you of your base assignment after you've started training?
Does anyone know the base assignments for the last couple classes?

Thanks!
For us it was around the 2nd or 3rd week of ground school we found out what our bases were. 18 DEN spots and 2 MCO. Several others got MCO on the next vacancy award.


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