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phoenix 23684 03-28-2017 07:22 PM

You will do great. I flew army king airs and no issues. The biggest problem for the mil guys in general is learning the FARs. Come witch a good attitude and you will be fine.

1900luxuryliner 03-28-2017 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by SUX4U (Post 2331467)
The caps got my attention. Is Frontier indeed more profitable then United? I couldn't find any 2016 financial earnings for Frontier. I'd be curious to see the numbers used that prove your statement to be true.

Basic financials are available through the Bureau of Transportation Statistics.

In 2016:

United produced a Net Income of 2,691 million on 36,540 million of Operating Revenue. As a percentage, 7.3%.

Frontier produced a Net Income of 189 million on 1,683 million of Operating Revenue. As a percentage, 11.2%.

1900luxuryliner 03-28-2017 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 2331478)
Profit MARGIN, probably yes.

Profit in DOLLARS, probably not.

Thanks. That's what I meant by profitability.

SUX4U 03-28-2017 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by 1900luxuryliner (Post 2331511)
Basic financials are available through the Bureau of Transportation Statistics.

In 2016:

United produced a Net Income of 2,691 million on 36,540 million of Operating Revenue. As a percentage, 7.3%.

Frontier produced a Net Income of 189 million on 1,683 million of Operating Revenue. As a percentage, 11.2%.

Gotcha! I figured that's the comparison you were speaking of. Thanks!

EMBskillz 03-29-2017 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by A319 (Post 2330178)
Wow. I think I must clarify what I mean. I definitely want us to be compensated as best we can be. I certainly want as much money in my pocket as I can get, especially with the company making as much money as it is. I am not "anti-union" by any means, I fully support our unions efforts and our pilot group. My whole point is that wearing a lanyard isn't going to solve any problems. And it certainly isn't anyone's business if I wear a lanyard or not. Also, it's no ones business if I start the APU or single engine taxi, that's my decision. However, I do support our efforts and hope that we do secure a great contract. Although, I don't think we will get a contract that is terrifically better than our peers, I think it will be along the lines of what our peers have now. If I'm wrong, then that's great, I'd love to be pleasantly surprised by the outcome of these negotiations. No, I won't be picketing on the 19th, because, just as with the lanyard, I don't think it is really going to help the situation.

Cherist man, I remember reading about the jetBlü guys in the 2000's justifying their lo pay with quik upgrades. Also they used to hire anti union types which kept them outta da monee for years. Hope this isn't the way it is there. I have been tryin to get on at F9 for a little while. Definitely dont need the drag on the industry types. It sounds like this is not the prevalent attitude here tho.

Chief Brody 03-29-2017 08:56 AM

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...nd-quarter-ipo

RandyLahey 03-29-2017 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 2330655)
Hey A319
You could come sit in RGS for me on the 19th so I could GLADLY picket!

Late to the party bud. Nice try though

SFA320 03-29-2017 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Chief Brody (Post 2331798)

I think this is great news. If they really do IPO, I would imagine there would be a lot of articles about the negotiation struggles and a potential strike. On one hand I'm sure Wall Street would love the cheap pilot labor, but on the other I would think labor strife could scare potential investors away. What's everybody's thoughts?

madmax757 03-29-2017 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by SFA320 (Post 2331871)
I think this is great news. If they really do IPO, I would imagine there would be a lot of articles about the negotiation struggles and a potential strike. On one hand I'm sure Wall Street would love the cheap pilot labor, but on the other I would think labor strife could scare potential investors away. What's everybody's thoughts?

Maybe that's why ALPA keeps saying we'll have a contract in 2017?

Mechanics and dispatchers have a contract recently, and the FA's have that equity buyout LOA going.

Blueskies67 03-29-2017 12:35 PM

Even more reason for us to show up in droves on the 19th and make some noise. Investors will prefer a settled contract if they knew how upset our pilot is. Problem is they don't know that unless we show up and portray that image.


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