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MistyFAC 06-12-2014 10:49 AM

Frontier Airlines Pilots Association - FAPA
 
It's official! The new representative of the Frontier Pilots is FAPA.

Aero1900 06-12-2014 10:54 AM

Bye-Bye IBT.

Now, FAPA has its work cut out for itself. Indigo will be a tough group to negotiate with. FAPA needs to be strong.

labbats 06-12-2014 12:22 PM

Congratulations! I'm curious as to how the infrastructure can work with just in-house dues supporting it. We looked into that option and it seemed to be impossible if/when the company stalled and we had to pay excessive lawyer fees... or to pay for us to go to court like we did last week to get an injunction. Heard that cost over $250,000.

(I work at Allegiant)

Jeckyl 06-12-2014 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 1663343)
Now, FAPA has its work cut out for itself. Indigo will be a tough group to negotiate with. FAPA needs to be strong.

The strong showing of unity is a great start!

zoooropa 06-12-2014 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by labbats (Post 1663391)
Congratulations! I'm curious as to how the infrastructure can work with just in-house dues supporting it. We looked into that option and it seemed to be impossible if/when the company stalled and we had to pay excessive lawyer fees... or to pay for us to go to court like we did last week to get an injunction. Heard that cost over $250,000.

(I work at Allegiant)

Long story short...the IBT demanded that FAPA turn over their bank account and all of their assets back in 2011 (I have a copy of the letter). FAPA said no.

Shortly thereafter some Frontier pilots suggested we dissolve the union and distribute the funds back to the pilots. This would have resulted in a distribution roughly equal to one paycheck. FAPA suggested otherwise.

A small group of Frontier pilots kept FAPA alive, on life support, with the hope (however unlikely) that FAPA would one day be re-elected as the bargaining agent for Frontier Pilots.

Today, that hope became a reality. It was an incredibly difficult journey through BK, the withdrawn bid by SWA, the acquisition by RAH, the SLI with RAH/YX/Lynx/F9, the sale of of F9 to Indigo, and finally the determination by the NMB that we are separate.

Life isn't going to be a walk in the park going forward, but we have accomplished something absolutely incredible. Congrats to my fellow Frontier pilots, you define the word Unity.

zoooropa 06-12-2014 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Jeckyl (Post 1663431)
The strong showing of unity is a great start!

Over 90% participation in the 2011 representation election.

Over 90% participation in the 2013 NMB card Drive.

Over 90% participation in the 2014 representation election.

It doesn't get any better than that.

IWalkJun12 06-12-2014 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Jeckyl (Post 1663431)
The strong showing of unity is a great start!

Lived thru Franke/Indigo years. Good luck. I wouldn't wish him upon my worst enemy.

The Juice 06-12-2014 07:21 PM

Muy Bien, Frontier...very happy for you guys. Glad to see you guys back on your way to independence from your Regional oppressors.

EvilMonkey 06-12-2014 09:36 PM

Good for you ladies and gents getting your representation back. Hopefully we can separate our lists and go back to what we each do best!

BoredwLife 06-13-2014 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by IWalkJun12 (Post 1663477)
Lived thru Franke/Indigo years. Good luck. I wouldn't wish him upon my worst enemy.

And I really wouldn't wish him on a in house union with only 750 pilots paying dues. I really hope you guys can get some loans, cause I imagine Frankie sees this as a way to bankrupt a union and finally impose a contract of his liking. Good luck y'all. I know you've been through a lot already.


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