Originally Posted by STLPilotGod (Post 3002578)

I have a different opinion about focus.

I don't believe the main concern is the virus or what happens with that. I don't believe the big concern is 50 seaters versus 70 seaters versus scope. United has reasons to keep flying 50 seaters. 550s or 200s? A 200 costs about 300 per hour less per flight hour than a 550 on the lease payments, the 550 uses a little less gas I believe. Customers will like the 550 more. 300 per hour divided by 40 people is about 7.50 per passenger. Is that a big thing, you decide.

I believe the main concern every Gojet/Compass/(TSA pilot wondering where to go) pilot should have is, are the major airlines done doing business with the likes of HK? Delta is, it is over with Delta and they will never deal with TSH again. United is still working with TSH, but will it last? TSA told them, "we have no pilots, we can't fly the contract, it's your problem now." TSH has lots of pilots at Compass and not enough at TSA but can't move them? If I were United I'm be looking elsewhere because I could not rely on TSH. American?

TSH had big problems before the virus. The virus will just be making things happen quicker. Is TSH the place to be?

Originally Posted by MoarAlpha (Post 3002704)

You are missing the whole point of adding 50-seaters though. They added the 550 because they couldn't add more 70-seaters due to scope and had the capacity to support a 50-seater at the time. now that load factors are dropping to nearly 0, they don't need the 'loophole' of the 550. I'm sorry, but Hulas is probably on the way out of the regional airline industry. Can you blame him?

Originally Posted by flyerforhire (Post 3007887)

I know that I am interested, and am close to submitting my application. I have 10 years of 121 experience, and have a CL-65 type. I don't know if that helps, but that is where I am. Would people from Trans States and Compass submit their applications to GoJet? Or, do you think that they would possibly look elsewhere?

As always, thank you for your input!

Originally Posted by flyerforhire (Post 3007887)

I know that I am interested, and am close to submitting my application. I have 10 years of 121 experience, and have a CL-65 type. I don't know if that helps, but that is where I am. Would people from Trans States and Compass submit their applications to GoJet? Or, do you think that they would possibly look elsewhere?

As always, thank you for your input!

Originally Posted by darkman62 (Post 3009057)

But why? Have you not seen all of TSH holdings are dissolving in the wind? Are you buying a ticket on the titanic!

Originally Posted by FollowMe (Post 3009093)

You mean TSA who has been flying on borrowed time since the AA birds went back to MQ? Or CPZ who had less than one year left on 20 MQ birds? GJT has a ten year deal and literally just signed a deal for 20 additional frames only weeks ago. Can this crisis get so bad that they have to walk away from it? Sure, but if it does literally NO ONE is safe at that point, on any list.

Originally Posted by FollowMe (Post 3009093)

GJT has a ten year deal and literally just signed a deal for 20 additional frames only weeks ago.

Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve (Post 3009260)

A 10 year CPA just means GJT has an agreement on how much they will get paid to fly the 550’s. That doesn’t mean their flying is guaranteed. No airline has that. United can pull the 550’s at any time. Just ask XJT who lost the 175’s one year into that CPA.


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Originally Posted by MoarAlpha (Post 3009329)

Those agreements don't mean ****.

Ask any XJT pilot how their Delta agreement was cancelled years before it expired.

Originally Posted by DL31082 (Post 3009523)

UAL wasn’t sure the XJT could staff the flying. XJT/SkyWest management negotiated winding down the Delta flying early so they could staff the UAL opportunity. Delta didn’t pull it early, XJT negotiated the wind down early so they could sign other opportunities.

Originally Posted by STLPilotGod (Post 3012130)

That's why UAL is moving some 550 flying to Skywest, so they have backup.

Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve (Post 3009260)

A 10 year CPA just means GJT has an agreement on how much they will get paid to fly the 550’s. That doesn’t mean their flying is guaranteed. No airline has that. United can pull the 550’s at any time. Just ask XJT who lost the 175’s one year into that CPA.


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Originally Posted by Av8rPHX (Post 3012695)

Force majeure can nullify any contracts that were signed previously. Perfect example is CPZ


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Originally Posted by paulhood (Post 3008299)

GoJet new hire classes have been postponed UFN.

Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3014168)

Little birdie I heard said classes in May.

Originally Posted by paulhood (Post 3014550)

I highly doubt that, even if a recruiter tells you that, it does not mean is going to happen, keep in mind that they were planning on senior pilots leaving, that is no longer happening, since all hiring at the majors has stopped. Also the company is asking for pay cuts and possible furloughs (the Covid bill might change that, but we do not know yet). Pilots on leave would have to return before new classes are started, currently leaves are being offered until June, so new hire classes maybe in August, if everything recovers well, nobody knows how long is going to take.

Originally Posted by FollowMe (Post 3014573)

Originally Posted by paulhood (Post 3014582)

It means “Either some people leave on their own or we force some people to leave” LOL

Originally Posted by FollowMe (Post 3014631)

So tell me how voluntary people on leave somehow ban the company from hiring. You seem to be confusing it with a furlough which is entirely different and provides protections, hence not meaning what you think it means.

Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 3014749)

You realize that UA reduced its schedule by 60% system wide. We are being told the cuts for May/June will be deeper. I can’t see any company offering voluntary leaves and then holding new hire classes. Everyone is in cash preservation mode and your cash comes from UA.

Originally Posted by BRJPilot (Post 3014885)

I don't think XJT got the memo on that. They are offering COLAs and still running very full new hire classes....for the time being!

Originally Posted by BRJPilot (Post 3014885)

I don't think XJT got the memo on that. They are offering COLAs and still running very full new hire classes....for the time being!

Originally Posted by itsmytime (Post 3014892)

those new hire classes aren’t going to be too full until they figure out the atp-cup situation.

Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 3014929)

I am still tuned at Xjet and there are no classes scheduled past April and now their ATP/CTP vendor has shutdown temporarily.

Originally Posted by BRJPilot (Post 3014939)

They have the ability to teach their own ATP/CTP course if they see the need. The 175 sim across the parking lot from the training center could be used for this since they aren't training any 175 pilots these days. Regardless, the fact that they still have 5 classes scheduled is quite a bit different than "no new hire classes and COLA".

Originally Posted by FollowMe (Post 3014631)

So tell me how voluntary people on leave somehow ban the company from hiring. You seem to be confusing it with a furlough which is entirely different and provides protections, hence not meaning what you think it means.

Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 3015038)

Why would a company trying to reduce staffing cost encourage people to take voluntary leaves and then turn around and hire furlough fodder? United is going to cut deeper in May and June. Both regional and legacy airlines are looking at furloughs this fall.

Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3014168)

Little birdie I heard said classes in May.

Originally Posted by domino (Post 3015508)

yes. May 2024