GoJet Recruitment
 

Hi guys,

I am new to the forum and enjoying the sub forum for GoJet.

GoJet is of particular interest to me and am hoping to go through the process of recruitment very soon, so I am eager to learn as much about that process and company as I possibly can.

I'm from Australia currently flying turboprop for a small regional.

Hiring process. From what I can tell, if you are breathing and have the time and certs and nothing in your criminal history, you get to go to training. But you have to put in a lot of effort to study because they do fire people who don't.

I haven't been here long enough to get a good feeling on the company, but I can tell it is run cheap just like most regionals. It's just the way the model works, not necessarily a shot a GoJet. They have their issues and are excited about the 550, but so far, it's just another regional. Everyone has been nice and professional and helped me out when I had a problem.

You probably won't see any E175s or anything. If there is more growth coming, I'd be surprised. I guess it's not entirely possible United won't want more 550's, but there's no way to know that or even if they would come here. We do have a lot of movement however with people going to the majors.

United has nearly reached its limit of 70 seaters per scope clause. Once that is exhausted, the only way they can increase capacity in the regional market is the 50 seaters. I’ve heard GoJet brass claim exclusivity in regard to the “550”. Disclaimer: you are free to debate the accuracy of their claim.

It’s likely the CRJs leaving Mesa will be refurbished as 550s and sent to GoJet. So at least for the short term there will be growth.


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There’s GoJet cheap, or any TSH airline cheap, and the other regionals cheap. Just one look at their headquarters in Saint Louis, or even the fact they’re in Saint Louis clearly shows their mindset on cheap. Aside from first impressions, ask around about their maintenance program. And then compare it to others. You’ll get a clearer picture.

Gojet doesn't have any sort of exclusive agreement with United to fly the CRJ 550. Just more BS from a group of people who struggle to keep their airline staffed. Skywest has told investors that they are ready to operate the CRJ 550 if United expands the program beyond what Gojet is planned to operate.

What does being in St. Louis have anything to do with the company being cheap? TWA was based in St. Louis, were they cheap?

[QUOTE=GoJuice;2974234]What does being in St. Louis have anything to do with the company being cheap? TWA was based in St. Louis, were they cheap?[/QUO

You figure it out

Thank you for your input and insights from within the company.

Yeh, I can assure you I will be studying and putting in the effort. Always been a studious type anyway.

The launch of the 550s sounds exciting as well.

It sure appears like they are a growing airline.

Two things in life are certain:

1. Inmates in prison are better legal scholars than SCOTUS.

2. Your average line pilot knows more inside information about the business of aviation than management does.

Exactly what I thought when I first saw the Gateway Arch in St. Louis, back in 1966. Kept thinking how cheap St. Louis is to not afford to paint it.

Appearances and reality are two totally different things. As of now, we are only growing by two or three air-frames with the 550s. Or something like that. We are loosing the Delta flying. I wouldn't call that growth. There are other regionals who are growing much faster. IE ExpressJet... at the moment.

You’re discussing growth variables which can be comparing a Fir to a Redwood.

So we are losing the delta flying but gaining 20 additional planes 18 more than what we has even with the Delta flying

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United is awarding G7 20 more for a total of 74. The pilot bonuses are aggressive to include experience match in some cases. The flying and growth are there.

The 550 was announced one year ago. That’s an eternity. As of now, I haven’t heard anyone else announce they’ll be operating it. It’s a hot product. If I was SkyWest, I’d tell my investors the same thing! But I’d expect some raised eyebrows behind “if”.

I would be surprised if gojet operates 74 planes for United in the end with the mx being so unreliable.

This is what I heard for the first time yesterday. I have yet to see a company memo yet though. So it looks like we are growing now!

It is in comply

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you do know SkyWest owns some of those 550’s..

some of those 550’s are on a short term lease if they work out Skywest might take them back. It all depends if they make more money leasing them

How concerned can they be after getting 25 175s from United? It would also depend on the terms of the lease. Can you arbitrarily pull the rug from under a lessee that has met all terms without repercussions? IDK

If the lease expires you sure can.

Well, that would mean the terms of the lease were satisfied and there would be no violation. That’s not arbitrary.

My question was really about doing it mid-lease

I am in the same boat as you mate. I have sent you a PM. How have things been so far with the recruitment etc?

I got accepted and am very excited about it.

Responded to your PM.

There is no future for a pilot at Gojet. Yes its sad, yes its true.

Can you expand on this please?

FYI United Airlines just announced that they are reducing their operation by 20%, I am not sure if that is going to affect GoJet, hopefully not.

Is this due to Coronavirus?

yes it is due to restrictions imposed because of the Coronavirus

No future? about as much as any regional can expect. However, considering the original plan was for 54 aircraft and it has been announced an additional 20 will be coming, doesn't sound to me like it will be folding up in the next year or two.

Gojet wi be a good place to be.. (minus there training complaints).

But that being said. the 550’s are all predicated on business travelers... as long as this Covid thing goes away soon and business travel picks back up. Things will be fine. If its here to stay. It covid-19 could kill the 550’s..

might wanna look at that united scope language.

with reduced flying if it continues...and fuel staying cheap...no way the 50 seat jet makes sense. Watch what Delta does...

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its gonna get worse unfortunately. All flying is being knee capped.

I think it's a matter of time before some of us hit the streets. I know I'm preparing for it. And that's probably across all airlines.

Wasn't the CRJ550 based off “business” pax’s.... Probably not the best setup for weathering this... maybe they will putt them back to the 70 seat configuration...??..

Probably take longer to reconfigure the airplane to 70 that it would take for this s$itshow to be over...

[QUOTE=Papa Bear;2997630]might wanna look at that united scope language.

with reduced flying if it continues...and fuel staying cheap...no way the 50 seat jet makes sense. Watch what Delta does...[/QUOTE

This is what Delta just did to us at CP. They pulled their remaining 20 planes by the end of this month. We were scheduled to be done around August. Oh well!
Waiting for the AA shoe to drop.

Still, other 50 seaters would be parked first. There are loads of them in the United system because of the scope. Too much excitement around the new product.

I have a different opinion about focus.

I don't believe the main concern is the virus or what happens with that. I don't believe the big concern is 50 seaters versus 70 seaters versus scope. United has reasons to keep flying 50 seaters. 550s or 200s? A 200 costs about 300 per hour less per flight hour than a 550 on the lease payments, the 550 uses a little less gas I believe. Customers will like the 550 more. 300 per hour divided by 40 people is about 7.50 per passenger. Is that a big thing, you decide.

I believe the main concern every Gojet/Compass/(TSA pilot wondering where to go) pilot should have is, are the major airlines done doing business with the likes of HK? Delta is, it is over with Delta and they will never deal with TSH again. United is still working with TSH, but will it last? TSA told them, "we have no pilots, we can't fly the contract, it's your problem now." TSH has lots of pilots at Compass and not enough at TSA but can't move them? If I were United I'm be looking elsewhere because I could not rely on TSH. American?

TSH had big problems before the virus. The virus will just be making things happen quicker. Is TSH the place to be?