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Old 08-26-2020, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Feliz6 View Post
Agreed. Some were saying the CRJ550 would have trouble being approved and not have any revenue flights. Next thing you know it was well liked and United approved up to 74 conversions. As I said Gojet just needs to survive until November when miraculously COVID hype will die off and suddenly Hydroxychloroquine will be widely regarded by the media/corporate propaganda tool to be effective. Oh yeah and the vaccine is ready to go..at a significant cost to customers.
Spot on analysis if you ask me. The vaccine is being kept on the D.L. by other countries in addition to their current, extensive hydroxychloroquine regiments for their citizens. There is simply no way for us here in the US to know this though because of our inability to communicate with the rest of the world. Still awaiting the return of my messenger dolphin with word from the Far East on effective herbal remedies.
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Old 08-26-2020, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ScrappyCocoa View Post
Spot on analysis if you ask me. The vaccine is being kept on the D.L. by other countries in addition to their current, extensive hydroxychloroquine regiments for their citizens. There is simply no way for us here in the US to know this though because of our inability to communicate with the rest of the world. Still awaiting the return of my messenger dolphin with word from the Far East on effective herbal remedies.
Way to keep it old school with the messenger dolphins.

If you need some extra hydroxy, hit me up.
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Old 08-26-2020, 08:40 AM
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Do you realize that GoJet was to receive 29 aircraft from a third party to convert to 550s, and after receiving 16, GoJet returned 3 due to "financial difficulties," and will not be receiving the remaining 13? This is per the 3rd party's 2nd quarter financial statement.
This is true. And for those of you who dont know who he is referring to, it is SKW. The next 20 planes after those were suppose to be leased from YV. But that now seems out the window since GoJet cant pay for them either.

This puts Gojet in violation of their CPA with UA. Their CPA agreement states they would be able to take on x amount of planes financially and convert those planes. Its the only reason UA resigned them back in Dec. The 550 was a Hail Mary by Hula.

It also puts UA in violation of their CPA with YV. They were responsible for finding another UAX carrier to take the 700s on a 1 for 1 swap when the E175s come (starting in Sep). They are not allowed to leave JO holding the bag for purchasing the E175s for them without finding a leasee for the 700s. Now currently JO is in discussions with UA about keeping the 20 planes and converting them for UA in exchange for more flying and moving into ORD and EWR with 550s. While the new Ejets stay in IAD. This amendment would have to be added to the CPA. This is not just a rumor, it has real legs, but a deal has yet to be struck. UA can still find another UAX carrier (possibly ZW) to take on those 700s. So we will see how JO and SK will play this.

Based on the violation of contract it will give UA the right to terminate the CPA on Gojet with just cause. I believe Gojet will be the next domino to fall.
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Old 08-26-2020, 09:32 AM
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This is true. And for those of you who dont know who he is referring to, it is SKW. The next 20 planes after those were suppose to be leased from YV. But that now seems out the window since GoJet cant pay for them either.

This puts Gojet in violation of their CPA with UA. Their CPA agreement states they would be able to take on x amount of planes financially and convert those planes. Its the only reason UA resigned them back in Dec. The 550 was a Hail Mary by Hula.

It also puts UA in violation of their CPA with YV. They were responsible for finding another UAX carrier to take the 700s on a 1 for 1 swap when the E175s come (starting in Sep). They are not allowed to leave JO holding the bag for purchasing the E175s for them without finding a leasee for the 700s. Now currently JO is in discussions with UA about keeping the 20 planes and converting them for UA in exchange for more flying and moving into ORD and EWR with 550s. While the new Ejets stay in IAD. This amendment would have to be added to the CPA. This is not just a rumor, it has real legs, but a deal has yet to be struck. UA can still find another UAX carrier (possibly ZW) to take on those 700s. So we will see how JO and SK will play this.

Based on the violation of contract it will give UA the right to terminate the CPA on Gojet with just cause. I believe Gojet will be the next domino to fall.
^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS....You are spot on. No one wants to hear about their company, I look at the actions of a company. No furlough letters, recruitment still organizing people in the pool, no MOUs. Mesa is up to something I don't know what, but I know those 700's aren't going anywhere. JO is greedy. Pay attention everyone, I was always taught when driving you look at the wheels of the car not the driver. Mesa wheels are spinning.
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Old 08-26-2020, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor614 View Post
^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS....You are spot on. No one wants to hear about their company, I look at the actions of a company. No furlough letters, recruitment still organizing people in the pool, no MOUs. Mesa is up to something I don't know what, but I know those 700's aren't going anywhere. JO is greedy. Pay attention everyone, I was always taught when driving you look at the wheels of the car not the driver. Mesa wheels are spinning.
CO wanted a reduced credit MOU. MEC was a hard NO. This may have been for the time frame it takes to spin up the 550 though. So we shall see. PSP 2.0 would help YV - it actually is in GJ favor if it DOESN'T happen.
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Old 08-26-2020, 03:33 PM
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GoJet is not currently putting in any efforts to survive. The best that might be said of their efforts is that they are taking a wait and see position. Mesa is working hard trying to make deals. Skywest has made a lot of progress and will quickly start expanding in 2021. They are currently putting a lot of pilots through training in the 175.
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Old 08-27-2020, 07:26 PM
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Way to keep it old school with the messenger dolphins.

If you need some extra hydroxy, hit me up.
Nah, you can keep it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-a9690521.html
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Old 08-29-2020, 10:53 PM
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This is true. And for those of you who dont know who he is referring to, it is SKW. The next 20 planes after those were suppose to be leased from YV. But that now seems out the window since GoJet cant pay for them either.

This puts Gojet in violation of their CPA with UA. Their CPA agreement states they would be able to take on x amount of planes financially and convert those planes. Its the only reason UA resigned them back in Dec. The 550 was a Hail Mary by Hula.

It also puts UA in violation of their CPA with YV. They were responsible for finding another UAX carrier to take the 700s on a 1 for 1 swap when the E175s come (starting in Sep). They are not allowed to leave JO holding the bag for purchasing the E175s for them without finding a leasee for the 700s. Now currently JO is in discussions with UA about keeping the 20 planes and converting them for UA in exchange for more flying and moving into ORD and EWR with 550s. While the new Ejets stay in IAD. This amendment would have to be added to the CPA. This is not just a rumor, it has real legs, but a deal has yet to be struck. UA can still find another UAX carrier (possibly ZW) to take on those 700s. So we will see how JO and SK will play this.

Based on the violation of contract it will give UA the right to terminate the CPA on Gojet with just cause. I believe Gojet will be the next domino to fall.
Are those 13 on top of the 39 that are already on property? Or which ones are you talking about?
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Old 08-30-2020, 04:54 PM
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Are those 13 on top of the 39 that are already on property? Or which ones are you talking about?
Yes, 13 of GoJets planes are leased from SKW. But there was 16 but 3 were returned bc GoJets failure to pay for the lease. No more planes are expected to go to GoJet in the near future due to the fact they cant make current payments on current agreements. Thus, putting them in violation of there CPA with UA. I suggest anyone there find another job before you are unemployed.

This sucks and I dont want anyone to lose their job but when the music stops GoJet will find itself without a chair.
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Old 08-30-2020, 05:13 PM
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Yes, 13 of GoJets planes are leased from SKW. But there was 16 but 3 were returned bc GoJets failure to pay for the lease. No more planes are expected to go to GoJet in the near future due to the fact they cant make current payments on current agreements. Thus, putting them in violation of there CPA with UA. I suggest anyone there find another job before you are unemployed.

This sucks and I dont want anyone to lose their job but when the music stops GoJet will find itself without a chair.
Huh, Shirley you can’t be serious? GoJet is and always has been a reputable company.
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