Dont you think that the people who work at Mesa know this better than anyone else! Paxhauler isnt defending MAGs ceo, he's defending himself and the others who work at MAG. We would like nothing better than to see OJ go away. When you feel that you are constantly put down by some on this board it is a natural reaction to defend yourself and co workers. Do most people on this board even know why MAG has a substandard contract. Its called Freedom. It was originally created to force Mesa pilots accept a bad contract. Mesa pilots didnt bite. So OJ had all new CRJ 9 and 7 deliveries put on the Freedom cert. Thats why alot of the original 900's N # end in FJ, Freedom jet. Some now call them *******ing jets. These pilots had little choice, thier jobs were being taken from them by the freedom alisters. The only good thing we got out of that contract was a merging of the pilots list so that some retibution could be paid. Now were in negotiations for a new contract but with state of MAG and the industry as a whole who knows whats going to happen!

Thanks for the lesson but I'm well aware of the whole Freedom A whipsaw being a former Freedom B.

If you worked there then why all the hate for Mesa people. There are people there who are really trying make things better. Hopefully JO will be gone soon. The only sad thing is that when things seem to be darkest for MAG is when OJ seems to pull a miracle out of his A**! MAG BOD do us all a favor, employees, pax, and shareholders, get rid of him!!!!!!!!!

Where did I anywhere in any of my posts say I had a hate for Mesa pilots? I wish the best for them all but I take issue with posts such as paxhauler that don't see a difference between SWA and MAG. As a matter of fact in other posts I've wished Mesa pilots, ALL Mesa pilots well.

SWA provides a product that travelers seem to prefer, and they take better care of their employees than any other US pax hauler...if they compete and win with that formula, it's hard to knock 'em. This is still America after all...you're SUPPOSED to win.

MAG "wins" by cheating...

Apparently they stole HA's business plans.

They don't adhere to their labor contracts.

They apparently don't comply with their business contracts either, at least as far as DAL is concerned.

They don't respect the human dignity of their employees.

Etc, Etc.

Appreciate the well wishes. Im sure he see's the difference between MAG and SWA. Im not saying you have personally but when people post that they hope MAG goes away we take that personally. You know this is our livelyhood. A lot of people say well get another flying gig, we all know that is easier said than done. With the way thing are in the industry I dont think it would be a good thing to be airline hopping. If and when MAG goes away I want people to post on this board how much better thier pay, QOL, and schedules have become. We all know someone is waiting in the shadows to underbid contracts so that they can get the flying!

The hardest part of it for me is why go to an airline with a reputation like that? Why subject yourself to really lousy management, lousy contracts, and a company with a history of unethical business decisions? We all gamble in this industry, but that is a big risk that seems to have no opportunity for reward.

Off the Mesa topic, back to gojets....

I did in fact hunt down some gojet pilots today and it was quite a fun break in my 8 hours of sitting around the airport doing nothing. At first I thought I wasn't going to be able to find any because I didn't want to stare at ID badges for too long. But after awhile of wandering around and getting bored I realized I didn't care so I just stared. I saw 5 gj pilots total. It's amazing how well they blend in. And after pilot watching for an afternoon I have a few observations:

1. Pilots look tired a lot. Like about half of all the pilots I saw today looked like they were two seconds from sleeping.

2. American Eagle seems to have more girls than the other regionals.

3. And finally I'm sorry if you were in ORD today and wondered why the blond pilot was staring at your uniform so hard. Or if you thought I was checking you out. I was just trying to see if you worked for gojets.

Oh, and I didn't see any with their badges in their pockets.

I understand what your saying! I think a lot of people go to work for whoever comes calling first. You here things but you always wonder are they true. Truth is until I was in this business I didnt know forums like this existed. And with all the wild rumors posted here I still have to try and decipher truth from fiction. I go to work, try and keep a good attitude, and try to help make things a little better for my coworkers. And hope our BOD grows a set and does the right thing!

I once had to DHD on GoJets from ORD to PWM. At the time I didnt know the story of GoJets. When I preboarded and went up to the cockpit to say hi the pilots looked genuinely freaked out that I came up front to talk!