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as bad as gojet is from the postings I read,I dont hear any financial issues or pilot. A classic example of nice guys always finish last

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Originally Posted by propjet38 (Post 388494)

I have been in the airline industry for 19 years currently flying an Airbus, and have seen the regional airlines become nothing more than a sad life version of high school. I have many friends that work for basically across the board from Mesa, Republic, Eagle, Compass, TSA, and Go Jet. I really think that most of the problem stems from that most of the pilots getting hired into the regionals don't have any formal education and bring that high school mentality into the industry. Go Jet..... well so people don't or say they don't like them but the truth is that in all honesty nobody knows why they don't, other than that is what they have been told. THINK FOR YOUR SELF. If you were not at TSA when the whole thing started move on with your life, because I can bet you really don't know the whole story. I am not defending but explaining that TSA was created and Eagle pilots hated TSA and for the most part STILL DO! I love the ALTER EAGLE stickers and then TSA stole that idea and made ALTER EGO JET stickers. But ALPA is really what screwed TSA over. REMEMBER GENTS HE WHO HAS THE MONEY MAKES THE RULES. Hulas had a business deal to make and he did, fact of life move on. There was a law suit against Go Jet by TSA and then the other way around, when it went to court the ruling was; Go Jet is not an alter ego airline, no picket line was crossed so pilot are not scabs (by the way most of the young pups out there throw around the word SCAB and don't know what it really means well...) and that it is a legal company. I know, I know... supporting Go Jet is bad. Really to me they are just another regional the same as as any one else. As for the badge thing really? I have mine on a lanyard sometimes and that thing is front wards and backwards and for the uniforms they look like all united express pilots, give me a break and go take up golfing or something.

I have to admit... there was a time when I would completely disagree with you on this... but in the large scope of things you are absoultely right. You can compare go-jets with just about any regional, or many other "national majors". 10-15 years ago people were making the same arguments about Southwest... taking food out of the mouths of legacy pilots by undercutting thier prices and creating a race to the bottom. In the end, in the world of deregulation, it is all the same... yes I just said Southwest is the same a Go-jets. For those of you who openly say you hate Go-jets but would happliy go to Southwest... you are a complete hypocrit if you are educated in the histroy of the airline industry. Should we all deny a Southwest pilot a j/s because a couple decades ago they went to a carrier that in the end brought the rest of our industry down? If you say you would rather work at target than Go-jets... then you should keep working at target until you can get a job at a legacy. But even then... pick carefully because if you pick the wrong one you may be hurting the people at the other airlines that have a better contract/QOL at the time of your hire and for years thereafter.

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Originally Posted by meeko031 (Post 389514)

as bad as gojet is from the postings I read,I dont hear any financial issues or pilot. A classic example of nice guys always finish last

It's privately owned....no "press release" or BOD meetings to talk about. Hulie has the $$, hulie keeps the $$.

On the other post....yep, eagle pilots were / are a little ticked at TSA doing American flying...but you also have to remember, TSA wasn't built to cater to american...think we had planes with a little TWE on the back of them long before american did it's "merger" with Trans World.

ebl14. That was one completely sick post ::shudders:: really can't comment any more than that.

the other day I was on my home from an interview and talking to my friend on the phone about it and a gojet recruiter that was jumpseating approached me later. Asking me if I wanted to be an airline pilot and handed me his card. It was quite hard to not laugh in his face. I would rather continue as an instructor than go to BlowJet!

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Originally Posted by fjetter (Post 389689)

Youve made the rest of us very proud.....youll do great things one day!

This is a portion of an email from my union.
The MEC passed a resolution that would give other ALPA carriers preference over non-ALPA carriers with respect to the physical jumpseat on Mesaba aircraft. The MEC also passed a resolution excluding GoJets pilots from the list of offline carriers approved to ride our jumpseat.

Take it as it is, by the way lightspeeder or whatever his name is works at XJ, so jetjock and the rest who jumped on him...well i dont want the moderators whining at me again.....

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Originally Posted by TBucket (Post 388915)

What ALPA refused was to fly 70 seat jets at 50 seat rates.

Is that why gojet was created? They're not being paid 50 seat rates now are they?

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Originally Posted by BURflyer (Post 389736)

Is that why gojet was created? They're not being paid 50 seat rates now are they?

According to this website, first/second year FO's get $23/$34 an hour at Expressjet to fly the 145... At HoJet, their first/second year FO's get $23/$30 an hour to fly the -700. Sounds like 70 seat flying at 50 seat pay to me...

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Originally Posted by TBucket (Post 389743)

And so does Skywest,Mesa,Eagle,Comair, and even Compass, to fly CRJ7/9 and E175s. And if you want to play dollar and scents Skywest CRJ7/9 FOs get paid less than 1st year Gojet FOs :rolleyes: